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#263
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Disagree. The settling of the seniority based on the difference between aircraft will have occurred by the next round of negotiations. Tying the two aircraft together was a mistake they made the first time. They should be tied to industry aircraft of same type/size, not to each other.
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Disagree. The settling of the seniority based on the difference between aircraft will have occurred by the next round of negotiations. Tying the two aircraft together was a mistake they made the first time. They should be tied to industry aircraft of same type/size, not to each other.
Um... so you mean like 717 pay at delta? We should’ve been closer to that! C series pay is pretty lacking going forward too. Good news is by the time we get any of those, in any real quantity, we will be well into negotiations again.
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Um... so you mean like 717 pay at delta? We should’ve been closer to that! C series pay is pretty lacking going forward too. Good news is by the time we get any of those, in any real quantity, we will be well into negotiations again.
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#266
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Disagree. The settling of the seniority based on the difference between aircraft will have occurred by the next round of negotiations. Tying the two aircraft together was a mistake they made the first time. They should be tied to industry aircraft of same type/size, not to each other.
If they had, they wouldn't have all these training events!
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And yes we would have. Artificially applying a 90% Bus rate to the 190 wasn’t sustainable. This shift was inevitable. Might be just as big when junior guys jump off the 320/321 and bid the 220 because those rates will be close.
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No doubt when the 220 starts coming online the super junior 80%+ captain probably won’t exist anymore.
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That’s our problem. We need negotiators and ultimately LEC reps willing to stand up for our worth and don’t move on when we ask and they say no next time.
And yes we would have. Artificially applying a 90% Bus rate to the 190 wasn’t sustainable. This shift was inevitable. Might be just as big when junior guys jump off the 320/321 and bid the 220 because those rates will be close.
And yes we would have. Artificially applying a 90% Bus rate to the 190 wasn’t sustainable. This shift was inevitable. Might be just as big when junior guys jump off the 320/321 and bid the 220 because those rates will be close.
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DAL rates going into their current negotiations:
A321: 285.50
B739: 285.50
B738: 284.01
A320: 274.06
A319: 274.06
A223: 269.15
A221: 262.84
B717: 255.57
JB’s E190 rate is pathetic and should be at least JB’s A221 rate. JB’s A221 rate should be the current A223 rate. Dying fleet or new fleet not on property...these rates matter and this should have been a resounding no. The cost of training events will surpass the amount they’d have paid with decent rates.
A321: 285.50
B739: 285.50
B738: 284.01
A320: 274.06
A319: 274.06
A223: 269.15
A221: 262.84
B717: 255.57
JB’s E190 rate is pathetic and should be at least JB’s A221 rate. JB’s A221 rate should be the current A223 rate. Dying fleet or new fleet not on property...these rates matter and this should have been a resounding no. The cost of training events will surpass the amount they’d have paid with decent rates.
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