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01-25-2021, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by disenchantMINT
You all can bicker about the true number of daily vaccinations and get into a left/right political argument all you want, but you do realize none of that matters if these restrictions remain in place, right? Vaccination numbers are irrelevant while travel restrictions are in place.
Business travel isn't going to come back quickly, and people don't want to spend on leisure travel if there are too many uncertainties or too few options. Taking a Covid test to go to Hawaii or Aruba is too much of a barrier for some people. Now you have to take one to get on a flight back home, and if you test positive... then what?
Business travel isn't going to come back quickly, and people don't want to spend on leisure travel if there are too many uncertainties or too few options. Taking a Covid test to go to Hawaii or Aruba is too much of a barrier for some people. Now you have to take one to get on a flight back home, and if you test positive... then what?
01-25-2021, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Whica Flore
We were no where near 60%. We ran about 60% sched at best at around 50-60 % LF. Overall thats about 30-40 % of normal footfall.
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01-25-2021, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by disenchantMINT
You all can bicker about the true number of daily vaccinations and get into a left/right political argument all you want, but you do realize none of that matters if these restrictions remain in place, right? Vaccination numbers are irrelevant while travel restrictions are in place.
Business travel isn't going to come back quickly, and people don't want to spend on leisure travel if there are too many uncertainties or too few options. Taking a Covid test to go to Hawaii or Aruba is too much of a barrier for some people. Now you have to take one to get on a flight back home, and if you test positive... then what?
Business travel isn't going to come back quickly, and people don't want to spend on leisure travel if there are too many uncertainties or too few options. Taking a Covid test to go to Hawaii or Aruba is too much of a barrier for some people. Now you have to take one to get on a flight back home, and if you test positive... then what?
01-25-2021, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Bgood
I disagree with this specific statement. As softpayman pointed out, the sooner we reach herd immunity with vaccination, the sooner the restrictions can be lifted. So yes vaccination numbers ARE relevant when evaluating to lift restrictions.
The point is as long as the restrictions are in place--and actually NOW they are getting MORE restrictive--it doesn't matter if we are sticking needles in 1 person, 500k, or 1 million a day. People aren't going to book a trip if they need to take multiple tests and quarantine after their trip. Biden even said it's going to get worse before it gets better (I take him at his word that the government will make sure things get worse), so buckle up buttercup. If you think needles in arms means we are back to normal in 2021 you are delusional.
01-25-2021, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by disenchantMINT
Yes, that is common sense. Eventually there ought to be herd immunity to allow for ending the restrictions. That isn't my point.
The point is as long as the restrictions are in place--and actually NOW they are getting MORE restrictive--it doesn't matter if we are sticking needles in 1 person, 500k, or 1 million a day. People aren't going to book a trip if they need to take multiple tests and quarantine after their trip. Biden even said it's going to get worse before it gets better (I take him at his word that the government will make sure things get worse), so buckle up buttercup. If you think needles in arms means we are back to normal in 2021 you are delusional.
The point is as long as the restrictions are in place--and actually NOW they are getting MORE restrictive--it doesn't matter if we are sticking needles in 1 person, 500k, or 1 million a day. People aren't going to book a trip if they need to take multiple tests and quarantine after their trip. Biden even said it's going to get worse before it gets better (I take him at his word that the government will make sure things get worse), so buckle up buttercup. If you think needles in arms means we are back to normal in 2021 you are delusional.
01-25-2021, 01:26 PM
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Every single Florida nursing home resident has now had the ability to be vaccinated. Every single one. Wether they chose to or not is unknown.
They account for 53% of the deaths.
Florida at large has vaccinated 22% of the population over 65. Along with the nursing homes together account for 83% of the deaths.
Remember this entire thing was “don’t kill my grandma”
Looks like we are moving the goal post again to nobody can ever die from Covid.
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They account for 53% of the deaths.
Florida at large has vaccinated 22% of the population over 65. Along with the nursing homes together account for 83% of the deaths.
Remember this entire thing was “don’t kill my grandma”
Looks like we are moving the goal post again to nobody can ever die from Covid.
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01-25-2021, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
Every single Florida nursing home resident has now had the ability to be vaccinated. Every single one. Wether they chose to or not is unknown.
They account for 53% of the deaths.
Florida at large has vaccinated 22% of the population over 65. Along with the nursing homes together account for 83% of the deaths.
Remember this entire thing was “don’t kill my grandma”
Looks like we are moving the goal post again to nobody can ever die from Covid.
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They account for 53% of the deaths.
Florida at large has vaccinated 22% of the population over 65. Along with the nursing homes together account for 83% of the deaths.
Remember this entire thing was “don’t kill my grandma”
Looks like we are moving the goal post again to nobody can ever die from Covid.
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Vaccinations don't matter. Your perception of the pandemic doesn't matter. Travel restrictions matter. International travel was doing fairly well for us but thanks to these new restrictions it is f'kd for quite some time.
You guys can stick your head in the sand and tell yourself whatever you need to, but we are at the mercy of the politicians not the virus. ✌️
01-25-2021, 01:46 PM
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NY opening up. https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/01/25/...e-updates.html
CA opening up. https://abc7.com/southern-california...geles/10002822
Vax rolling out. What, like 100m+ more will be vaxxed by summer. Any high risk or frontline worker who wants it can basically get it now or soon. We should see deaths and hospitalizations decreases dramatically over the next few months. Jan/feb are trough months anyway. The worst is behind us covid wise.
CA opening up. https://abc7.com/southern-california...geles/10002822
Vax rolling out. What, like 100m+ more will be vaxxed by summer. Any high risk or frontline worker who wants it can basically get it now or soon. We should see deaths and hospitalizations decreases dramatically over the next few months. Jan/feb are trough months anyway. The worst is behind us covid wise.
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