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Old 01-24-2026 | 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by benzoate
As earnings are on the 27th it’s important to note 11-12% of jetblue routes overlap with spirit. Modest at best. I don't see how Spirit shrinking, or ceasing to exist, truly benefits Jetblue. United, according to Kirby, cracked the code on ULCC pricing and can offer that low fare on a limit seating basis making largely negating spirits affect to the bottom line. Delta and AA have followed suit.
it’s not necessarily the overall overlap system wide, it’s the competition in our second largest hub not hub FLL. Spirit drove us out of a lot of SA markets and even a few domestic. If they cease to exist we will immediately re enter Columbia and several domestics from FLL. We also immediately gain pricing power on the remaining routes we overlap. Fll-the islands, fll-bos, fll-Lga, fll-Rdu.
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Old 01-24-2026 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
Agree for the most part. NK ceasing to exist removes low fare competitive pressure in FLL, which would allow JB to add capacity with seemingly little competitive response. I’m not sure it will be so easy, and some other competitor is bound to show up.

JB isn’t in a strong position to compete considering our financials. Any battle in FLL is likely to be short lived.
FLL represents around 19% of passengers while JFK and BOS are 24% and 30% or higher. Yields, in FLL, are also lower so touting the #1 carrier doesn’t seem to be a boon to business in my option. Particularly when long haul international is not even an option with the current fleet.
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Old 01-24-2026 | 06:20 AM
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Also, super curious as to how jetblue intends to raise additional capital. Gates? Leases? AC deferrals?
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Old 01-24-2026 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by benzoate
FLL represents around 19% of passengers while JFK and BOS are 24% and 30% or higher. Yields, in FLL, are also lower so touting the #1 carrier doesn’t seem to be a boon to business in my option. Particularly when long haul international is not even an option with the current fleet.
Yes, there’s a reason nobody spends a lot of capacity on FLL, but JB has to play the hand we are dealt. I would much rather see DL decide to walk away from BOS but that ain’t happening.
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Old 01-27-2026 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by holiday
Not only is there not an urgency to hit D0, but when there is a delay, it seems like some stop caring. The posted delay time should also be a goal to hit to prevent further delays. I don’t know if they track that but I hope they do. Regarding A14, it is contingent upon D0. It starts at the departure gate.
I disagree with this part of your statement. Many of our missed D0s are from 1 min to 10 mins, which usually still have us achieving A14 on that flight. Those flights still count as on time. This is why sometimes you will see, for example, 50% for D0 and 84% A14 in our metrics.
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Old 01-27-2026 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by benzoate
Also, super curious as to how jetblue intends to raise additional capital. Gates? Leases? AC deferrals?
$6.8B in unencumbered assets.

Originally Posted by benzoate
FLL represents around 19% of passengers while JFK and BOS are 24% and 30% or higher. Yields, in FLL, are also lower so touting the #1 carrier doesn’t seem to be a boon to business in my option. Particularly when long haul international is not even an option with the current fleet.
Yields improved as Spirit drew down FLL ops and gates including int'l ones are becoming available.
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Old 01-27-2026 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by STIorSTD
When your non pilot financial advisor says we have about 2 years left before bankruptcy, there’s definitely urgency for change. Considering we won’t make money in 2027 either.

also we have a cost issue. Sure we can get $950 in EBIT but then you have to factor in actual expenses like interest on debt which we have A LOT of
Just a small question or 2. Can you show us the results of 2027? Or is this just speculation written as facts?
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Old 01-27-2026 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Bgood
I disagree with this part of your statement. Many of our missed D0s are from 1 min to 10 mins, which usually still have us achieving A14 on that flight. Those flights still count as on time. This is why sometimes you will see, for example, 50% for D0 and 84% A14 in our metrics.
Technically that’s true but my point was that aiming for D0 should be the goal. The closer we are to that goal the better chance we have of hitting A14. There will be times when we are 16 minutes late due to a long taxi, holding, etc. and would have been on time if we departed at D0. Every minute counts.
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Old 01-27-2026 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by benzoate
Also, super curious as to how jetblue intends to raise additional capital. Gates? Leases? AC deferrals?
1. Issue more shares. Equity debt.
2. Corporate bonds(probably very high interest rate)
3. Convertible bonds. Debt that coverts to shares at some point.
4. Collateralized debt.

They have some options.
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Old 01-27-2026 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by holiday
Technically that’s true but my point was that aiming for D0 should be the goal. The closer we are to that goal the better chance we have of hitting A14. There will be times when we are 16 minutes late due to a long taxi, holding, etc. and would have been on time if we departed at D0. Every minute counts.
I see that they are tracking D0 and asking for reports on why D0 was missed, is there something that suggest they(the C suites) don't really care about D0?

Edit: I reread your post, I see you are talking about AO/GO not caring enough about those metrics.
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