Gojet!!!
01-21-2009, 08:28 PM
#111
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Originally Posted by JJOSH122
I'm only using the pay comparison between TSA and Gojet to help determine if Trans States was intentionally trying to skirt the system and screw the pilots.
Sure morals and character carry weight, but if the pay comparison helps show that Trans States wasn't intentionally trying to screw TSA pilots, then where is the moral ineptitude and character deficiency?
Sure morals and character carry weight, but if the pay comparison helps show that Trans States wasn't intentionally trying to screw TSA pilots, then where is the moral ineptitude and character deficiency?
JJOSH122, it's very obvious that you don't know much about labor and the airlines. It's a whole lot deeper than the 23 vs the 22 dollars pay difference in FOs or the 66 vs the 64 dollar difference in CA pay between TSA and GJ. In case you haven't noticed almost all regionals have nearly identical pay. It's what you don't see like, work rules that we are fighting for that could make a difference in 10 to 20K pay difference per year and substantial QOL. The GJ pilots were created to circumvent the CBA of TSA pilots as well as to screw them out of new contract terms they were asking for.
01-21-2009, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by JJOSH122
ok... I'm new to this arument and have never been a union member. However, I have done a little research on this subject. And, after applying a little logic, I have a question or two...
Let’s say you are a pilot for airline A and after a year or so with the company A you’re being told that you’re now being furloughed…
Yet, at the very same time your company creates a side business and calls it airline B to circumnavigate dealings with your pilots’ union and starts hiring other pilots for that operation.
So your employer is simultaneously hiring and furloughing simply to realign pilots into a management friendly unit…
When they told you that you’re being furloughed they also offered you a position at this new alter-ego airline. At the time, the ‘other’ company has no union and is in fact “crewed” by many pilots who’ve crossed picket lines in the past.
So your choice is being furloughed or to ‘move over’ to this new union-busting operation.
This is what I think is wrong – an airline started for one simple reason – to bust the union.
Many things have happened since then; the ‘other’ company or Gojet now has a union and some think they’ve become a legit company. In my view however, since they started out as a union busting operation they can never be a ‘normal airline.’
The pilots there are making a little more than TSA pilots as you pointed out BUT they also fly bigger airplanes. The original disagreement TSA pilots had with their management was over how much money the larger equipment should bring. TSA felt the pilots should get the same pay whether 50 or 70 seat airplanes; the union felt larger airplanes should bring in more…
They ended up paying Gojet pilots a little more than what the 50 seater pilots would've made at TSA however not as much as the union wanted.
Note, before you, or someone else, attacks me for being a leftist fanatic; I’m a proud republican who did not vote for the One – I dislike Gojet because of it’s disgraceful past, that’s all…
I will always be cordial and professional to all Gojet employees however they have not earned my respect (…as I stated before, I actually have a friend there and yes he is still my friend although I will always disagree with his decision).
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01-22-2009, 04:22 AM
#113
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Originally Posted by FutureFO
What I have heard, at the Miami job fair, GoJet had a huge line. Since it's the only airline that is hiring right now, they get hundreds of resumes everday and they are being very picky about who to choose.
I understand that a lot of folks don't like GoJet, but the fact is, what it is.
I understand that a lot of folks don't like GoJet, but the fact is, what it is.
01-22-2009, 09:28 AM
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Hindsight is always 20/20. Go work for Hulas and you'll find out.
01-22-2009, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by JJOSH122
This is not true according to the mediation board's investigation.
the board's report, under the section "statement of facts", says...
"TSA’s fleet is composed entirely of aircraft that fly 50 or fewer passengers. American has the right to terminate its contract with TSA if it operates any aircraft with more than 50 seats."
the board's report, under the section "statement of facts", says...
"TSA’s fleet is composed entirely of aircraft that fly 50 or fewer passengers. American has the right to terminate its contract with TSA if it operates any aircraft with more than 50 seats."
01-22-2009, 11:15 AM
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I hear Go Jets is looking at opening a Dulles base since ORD is getting a bit packed...
01-23-2009, 06:29 AM
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Do yourself a favor and avoid GoJet. Enough said.
01-26-2009, 10:22 PM
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might be easier said than done. Go jet is hiring and I might be out on my A$$ soon so then what? Stand in the unemployment line because TSA's management screwed its pilots. Someone else will just take my place anyway. Making a personal stand will only cause me to suffer not gojet.
01-26-2009, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by kodiakallstar
Stand in the unemployment line because TSA's management screwed its pilots.
01-27-2009, 11:09 AM
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Has anyone got a response from sending in the app lately?
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