Gojet!!!
#81
Oh man purpleanga...tried to settle this already...need I remind you (AGAIN) that my random guy is a 53 year old captain on a 747-400...not too random. AND a captain on a 777...not too random..also, Management AND H/R from NWA...once again...not too random. Yes, they are providing me with advice, and I am passing it along to the people that are considering going to gojet. It's NOT a career ender.
Face it...most major airlines really don't care what happened at your last regional...H/R will look for PIC time and get you an interview...the chief pilots are going to be older on the interview board, so they will likely not even think twice about gojet.
Face it...most major airlines really don't care what happened at your last regional...H/R will look for PIC time and get you an interview...the chief pilots are going to be older on the interview board, so they will likely not even think twice about gojet.
Except the fact that Delta HR will be doing the hiring now, so what is their take? Keep in mind that the average line pilot at DL took a very keen interest in who was interviewing and where they came from during the last hiring round. Granted it had to do with a certain DCI carrier, but the same thing could happen if the Gojet pilots are associated with being like the RJDC guys. Delta HR is very sensitive to the line pilot's input. Plus it's not the CPs who are part of the interview process, but line captains and recently retired guys whose purpose in the interview is to act as a filter for the line pilots.
#82
Bracing for Fallacies
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From: In favor of good things, not in favor of bad things
I would think twice about working for this start up:
GoJet pilots will fly for wages far below the industry standard, without union safety provisions, for a hostile management. Pilots may be forced to work up to sixteen hours straight without a break, may be forced to fly airplanes that they don't believe are safe and may risk losing their job whenever they feel it's necessary to cancel a flight, due to safety concerns. GoJet literally takes airline safety back seventy years.
GoJet pilots will fly for wages far below the industry standard, without union safety provisions, for a hostile management. Pilots may be forced to work up to sixteen hours straight without a break, may be forced to fly airplanes that they don't believe are safe and may risk losing their job whenever they feel it's necessary to cancel a flight, due to safety concerns. GoJet literally takes airline safety back seventy years.
Sounds a lot like the flight school I worked for...and we were fairly prestigious for the area.
#83
Keep going to work for alter egos and you won't have anywhere to go because there won't be better jobs.
But hey, those CRJs sure are shiny.
But hey, those CRJs sure are shiny.
#84
Line Holder
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Except the fact that Delta HR will be doing the hiring now, so what is their take? Keep in mind that the average line pilot at DL took a very keen interest in who was interviewing and where they came from during the last hiring round. Granted it had to do with a certain DCI carrier, but the same thing could happen if the Gojet pilots are associated with being like the RJDC guys. Delta HR is very sensitive to the line pilot's input. Plus it's not the CPs who are part of the interview process, but line captains and recently retired guys whose purpose in the interview is to act as a filter for the line pilots.
#85
As a pilot for Delta, believe me when I tell you that those guys are out of the loop with the majority of line pilots. I actually had a 777 captain try to tell me that Delta had recalled all the furloughees 2 years before I was actually recalled. As for your last statement, the company does care how you fit in the company, and if the sentiment on line is to not hire pilots from a certain carrier, they will try and match that. This is from a 9 year 767 pilot. However, feel free to totally ingore how the middle part of the seniority list feels about certain carriers.
#86
Oh man purpleanga...tried to settle this already...need I remind you (AGAIN) that my random guy is a 53 year old captain on a 747-400...not too random. AND a captain on a 777...not too random..also, Management AND H/R from NWA...once again...not too random. Yes, they are providing me with advice, and I am passing it along to the people that are considering going to gojet. It's NOT a career ender.
Face it...most major airlines really don't care what happened at your last regional...H/R will look for PIC time and get you an interview...the chief pilots are going to be older on the interview board, so they will likely not even think twice about gojet.
Face it...most major airlines really don't care what happened at your last regional...H/R will look for PIC time and get you an interview...the chief pilots are going to be older on the interview board, so they will likely not even think twice about gojet.
#87
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It's NOT a career ender.
Face it...most major airlines really don't care what happened at your last regional...H/R will look for PIC time and get you an interview...the chief pilots are going to be older on the interview board, so they will likely not even think twice about gojet.
Face it...most major airlines really don't care what happened at your last regional...H/R will look for PIC time and get you an interview...the chief pilots are going to be older on the interview board, so they will likely not even think twice about gojet.
Yes your career will not end at Gojet. CRJ700 time is still valuable in Africa. However, you will have a black hole on your resume for the rest of your flying career as having worked for a alter-ego, union busting airline.
#88
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From: B737CA
Sorry to shatter your arguments Carl, purpleanga and others, but here you have it:
ALPA sued and petitioned NMB. I presume this was before you gentlemen were at TSA based on your arguments.
http://www.nmb.gov/representation/deter2006/33n009.pdf
Since the above decision was rendered, has ALPA done anything to support your allegations that GoJet is an alter ego? I can tell you for a fact that ALPA is telling furloughees to apply at GoJet.
So... there's a legal decision by the courts, there's ALPA telling members it's OK to go there. It sucks that you were furloughed while another company under your holding company is hiring, but hey... isn't GoJet offering TSA furloughs preferential hiring?
ALPA sued and petitioned NMB. I presume this was before you gentlemen were at TSA based on your arguments.
http://www.nmb.gov/representation/deter2006/33n009.pdf
Since the above decision was rendered, has ALPA done anything to support your allegations that GoJet is an alter ego? I can tell you for a fact that ALPA is telling furloughees to apply at GoJet.
So... there's a legal decision by the courts, there's ALPA telling members it's OK to go there. It sucks that you were furloughed while another company under your holding company is hiring, but hey... isn't GoJet offering TSA furloughs preferential hiring?
#89
Sorry to shatter your arguments Carl, purpleanga and others, but here you have it:
ALPA sued and petitioned NMB. I presume this was before you gentlemen were at TSA based on your arguments.
http://www.nmb.gov/representation/deter2006/33n009.pdf
Since the above decision was rendered, has ALPA done anything to support your allegations that GoJet is an alter ego? I can tell you for a fact that ALPA is telling furloughees to apply at GoJet.
So... there's a legal decision by the courts, there's ALPA telling members it's OK to go there. It sucks that you were furloughed while another company under your holding company is hiring, but hey... isn't GoJet offering TSA furloughs preferential hiring?
ALPA sued and petitioned NMB. I presume this was before you gentlemen were at TSA based on your arguments.
http://www.nmb.gov/representation/deter2006/33n009.pdf
Since the above decision was rendered, has ALPA done anything to support your allegations that GoJet is an alter ego? I can tell you for a fact that ALPA is telling furloughees to apply at GoJet.
So... there's a legal decision by the courts, there's ALPA telling members it's OK to go there. It sucks that you were furloughed while another company under your holding company is hiring, but hey... isn't GoJet offering TSA furloughs preferential hiring?
Holy thread revival Batman! I don't really have time to go back and catch up on the argument here because, at this point, I don't really care. I'm out of here (airline industry) as soon as I've got a firm hold on the next rung in the ladder. Hasta la bye-bye
#90
Gets Weekend Reserve
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From: B737CA
Congrats Cap'n!! Good on ya!
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