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Old 09-12-2013 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Good night to all the DALPA folks here. I'm just one guy, and I need to get to bed. Got a long day tomorrow, and I don't get flight pay loss.

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You think I am on FPL today? Ha. Far from it. Sleep well Carl. I am looking forward to seeing you show up at a C20 meeting and being part of the process.

Admitting you need to be part of the process to effect change is step 1.
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Old 09-12-2013 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by alfaromeo
Does it seem like Carl is getting more and more desperate on here? He was always obnoxious, but now he is just inventing more and more crap at volumes that rival a herd of cows.
Agree. The more text, the duller the point.

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Old 09-12-2013 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Post the quotes from him.

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DPA Member Testimonials page for starters and I can't get the search function to work on the DALPA site for some reason

"In my opinion, we have reached the point of no return. The point where we know it will be faster and easier to clean house and start over." - S. Castell DTW 744B
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Old 09-13-2013 | 02:57 AM
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I'm with you Carl. Keep fighting!!
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Old 09-13-2013 | 03:17 AM
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By ACL....."Apparently the DPA constitution is being edited because of the glaring flaws that are being pointed out. It proves that its seat of the pants and they are in damage control mode."

NOW THAT IS HILARIOUS. DPA is in damage control? Have you read these forums at all? YGTBSM....now your just looking weak ACL. Really....
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Old 09-13-2013 | 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted by alfaromeo
Does it seem like Carl is getting more and more desperate on here? He was always obnoxious, but now he is just inventing more and more crap at volumes that rival a herd of cows.
Funny, that's the same thought I get from reading acl's and hitimefurl's posts.
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Old 09-13-2013 | 05:55 AM
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Your dogged persistence of making the "facts" fit the argument is commendable.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

All of these items you list were also experienced by the independents of SWAPA and IPA. Only ALPA can claim the sheer number of historic collapses experienced by the airline pilots they represented. Just to ensure you don't think I'm changing the subject, here is my repost of Fact #2:

Again, I'm comparing ALPA versus independent union life in the exact same world experiencing the exact same disasters.

Yes, because all airlines are the same? SWA had NO exposure to SARS, the euro zone meltdown or exponential fuel price increases. I guess SWAPA was responsible for their company's hedging? The above is like saying ALL U.S. households should have taken the same financial hit in the Great Recession since they are in "the exact same world experiencing the exact same disasters.

Again, is this type of hyperbole prized in the DALPA echo chamber? When you talk like this, does everybody laugh? Just curious.

Ahh irony at it's finest. At least the DALPA echo chamber is a lot more diverse than your whale cockpit. How many junior or south guys or guys not based in DTW have you had the pleasure of working with recently?

I do feel strongly about it because ALPA is currently my bargaining agent, and they completely flip-flopped on this issue. Nobody disagrees with that except the most ardent of the ALPA rent-a-mob. And yes, I will be retiring at 60. It was always my plan to do so, and I'm fortunate that my plan has worked out.

Your plan worked out even in lieu of ALPA's 20 years of failures? It must be nice to be independently wealthy outside of this job. $500 to our respective charities says you're keeping your whale seat warm past 60.
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Old 09-13-2013 | 06:58 AM
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The whale will be gone before Carl is 60. Can I take that bet?
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Old 09-13-2013 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
I don't believe my allegation is false. I believe Lee Moak did this for no other reason but to set our new MEC straight as to who runs ALPA and who doesn't.
Carl
So this is your opinion, as you so like to ask other people?

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
We absolutely know that you've (yet again) stated your personal opinion as if it were a fact.

I look forward to your evidence to prove this personal opinion of yours

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Yes, please. We are waiting for YOUR evidence as to the allegation. Time to put up.
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Old 09-13-2013 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
The whale will be gone before Carl is 60. Can I take that bet?
If that's the case, then I'm even more surprised. How can someone who's been blessed to be at the top of the food chain for so long be so bitter?
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