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Old 02-25-2023 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by MinRest
I guess I will just quote your quote again...



Does making it bold help you read what you typed? You quoted a year's worth of training pay...
I think a person using common sense can determine a pay rate versus thinking that somehow, training pay is for an entire year.

Anyone else who read it as an entire year at that rate? Please chime in if so.
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Old 02-25-2023 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyfalcons
I think a person using common sense can determine a pay rate versus thinking that somehow, training pay is for an entire year.

Anyone else who read it as an entire year at that rate? Please chime in if so.
So add context, where did you get that number from? You threw a very specific number out, if that isn't year 1 FO pay on training pay (as you said verbatim in your quote) how much training pay is that? What schedule did you quote after training pay?
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Old 02-25-2023 | 08:42 AM
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That is the pay rate for Year 1 FO on training pay. Training pay begins day 1 of employment and continues until one completes IOE and is released to the line. At that time, the pilot may choose between our different schedule types, each with its corresponding pay rate. Training pay rate is identical to CC72 pay rate.

I admit to being perplexed at the necessity of your question, though. I thought that a former employee, who is still so familiar with the company as to regularly contribute to NJA threads, would know this. However, assumptions can prove problematic at times, so I apologize for assuming.

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Old 02-25-2023 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyfalcons
That is the pay rate for Year 1 FO on training pay. Training pay begins day 1 of employment and continues until one completes IOE and is released to the line. At that time, the pilot may choose between our different schedule types, each with its corresponding pay rate. Training pay rate is identical to CC72 pay rate.

I admit to being perplexed at the necessity of your question, though. I thought that a former employee, who is still so familiar with the company as to regularly contribute to NJA threads, would know this. However, assumptions can prove problematic at times, so I apologize for assuming.
You weren't giving that number to me. I am tasking you with explaining yourself because you were arguing with somebody who works at Flexjet about first-year pay. You gave a number that needs context. The number you gave assumes you stay on CC72 AFTER you are released from training. You made zero mention of that and just simply said "training pay for year 1 FOs is 86,373. Pathetic that a former employee has to explain your payscales because you can't.
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Old 02-25-2023 | 09:12 AM
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The calculus missing in the who is making more money six inch ruler contest is the question as to who is working more?

That is very clearly Flex and always has been.

Place a pilot from both on the same schedule and it will favor NJ’s pretty much every time notwithstanding the auto upgrade pay bump without upgrading policy in Ricci’s world.
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Old 02-25-2023 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by MinRest
You weren't giving that number to me. I am tasking you with explaining yourself because you were arguing with somebody who works at Flexjet about first-year pay. You gave a number that needs context. The number you gave assumes you stay on CC72 AFTER you are released from training. You made zero mention of that and just simply said "training pay for year 1 FOs is 86,373. Pathetic that a former employee has to explain your payscales because you can't.
So far you are the only one who misunderstood what I wrote. If I had written that training pay 'rate' is 86,373, would that have alleviated your misunderstanding? I generally find the terms "pay" and "pay rate" to be accepted as having an identical intent. But, as luck would have it, not everyone apparently shares the same view. Would you even believe that some people would equate my statement as someone would being in training for an entire year?
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Old 02-25-2023 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyfalcons
So far you are the only one who misunderstood what I wrote. If I had written that training pay 'rate' is 86,373, would that have alleviated your misunderstanding? I generally find the terms "pay" and "pay rate" to be accepted as having an identical intent. But, as luck would have it, not everyone apparently shares the same view. Would you even believe that some people would equate my statement as someone would being in training for an entire year?
You said the words "training pay" and gave an ANNUAL salary dude.
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Old 02-25-2023 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by MWilliams
Everyone that wants to spend their career flying business jets should be supporting the NetJets pilots in their contract negotiations. Every segment of the "professional pilot industry" will benefit.
So glad someone finally said this. What is good for American is good for Delta and United, what's good for UPS is good for FedEx. Support your brothers/sisters because Flex and Net are the only two places that can potentially push 135 pay and QOL up for the rest.
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Old 02-25-2023 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Peabody17
Methinks JTF is going to lose a nut…one way or the other.
Actually, they haven't been mine to gamble for a long time- not since my wife took them and hid them away.
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Old 02-25-2023 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyfalcons
I think a person using common sense can determine a pay rate versus thinking that somehow, training pay is for an entire year.

Anyone else who read it as an entire year at that rate? Please chime in if so.
Don’t try to explain it to him. He has his agenda. He makes cheap shot posts about flexjet or Netjets. Won’t say who is talking about and then says you have no ground to talk about flex because you have never worked there. So I guess his little vague shots are all about Netjets since he has no ground to talk about flexjet by his logic. He is just here to stir the pot.
Don’t try to correct someone if they post incorrect info because he will then say you are being paid by Netjets to defend them. Netjets and JL for some reason hurt him and he wants everyone to know.
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