Is compass an option, Living out west? I would imagine the upgrade at compass would be comparable to psa

 

Compass would definitely be a better option, but I haven't been able to get an interview with them. I've got an app submitted, but haven't gotten any response. I keep hearing that they prefer guys with prior 121 experience.

 

June 23rd new hire class. 6 fired (5 for training failures), 1 quit for personal reasons and four for better jobs (1 Swift, 1 Delta, 2 UAL).

I don't know if my class is typical but it shows why they have to hire a lot more than a quick look at the fleet numbers might indicate.

I'm going to UAL.

 

About 50-60% of "hired" pilots make it to the line between failures, personal reasons, and getting other jobs shortly after making it to the line.

Obviously what I say is an estimate only. For pure upgrade time TSA is probably a better bet.

 

Congrats man!

may I ask what your times and creds are?

 

In the last 12 months, 81% of everyone that was in class on the first day of Indoc made it to the line as a pilot.

Also, in the last 12 months, 87% of the people that finished Systems made it to the line. A significant number of those that did not make it quit on their own. Some got jobs with the LLC's or majors, while others had personal reasons that interfered with training.

A major part of the problem with the failures was the time off between class and sims. Some people had to wait more than a month, and were not ready when they got back to sims. They had not studied during the break, and spend the first 3 sim sessions re-learning their flows/callouts. To combat this problem, PSA now has 5 sims to use, and the time between class and sims is down to no more than 2 weeks.

If you fail your sim ride, or are not ready for it, you automatically get 2 more sessions as part of the program. After that, you can get one more if your sim instructor thinks that you have a good attitude and are improving. If that doesn't work, you are asked to leave for up to 6 months and take a jet transition course or to complete some other program that will help you. If you are a screw up, are not trying, or are not improving, you will likely fail.

Most of the fails lately were guys that had a hard time with the English language, had never flown a jet and were just not ready for it, and those that simply did not prepare. If you don't study, you will fail. You get 10 sessions in the IPTs before sims. If you don't know your flows/callouts well before sims, you aren't trying very hard.

With no new awards of more airplanes, the upgrade time of people in class today will still be under 2 years. There are several options for more airplanes after the ones on the way now. The training department is growing quickly and they are adding several new instructors. Also, in the very near future, all students will be issued an iPad with all of the training material on them, including CBT's. For now, everyone gets a memory stick with all of the materials in addition to the paper manuals.

 

Thanks.

Just short of 11,000 TT, 0 TPIC. Over 8,000 121/135.

 

anyone else mid january class date? can someone post a link to the contract?

 

Yepp, they have the "4 year college degree" and "121" filter checked when they weed through the apps. So much for pilot shortage

 

That's what I thought. I've got the degree, but no 121 time. Sounds like they're picking up all the XJT and EVY guys that bailing ship. Too bad, Compass sounds like a good company with fast upgrades.