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Old 03-17-2016 | 04:33 PM
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I wonder how PSA management must be feeling about their jobs since Parker says he doesn't care about the "regionals"?
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Old 03-17-2016 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyDingus
My friend went. Basically if we can't staff the flying Will be shifted. AAG only cares about efficiency. Flying is favored to be within the wholly owned regionals. 200 carriers doesn't look promising.


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Old 03-17-2016 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by T1000
I wonder how PSA management must be feeling about their jobs since Parker says he doesn't care about the "regionals"?
He didn't say he didn't care about regionals. What he said was the regionals job was to get people to mainline at the cheapest cost. He cares about regionals only in the fact that he cares how much it cost him to get people to the hubs. He cares in a money sense but he doesn't care about the pilots and their suffering.
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Old 03-17-2016 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by YNWA1892
He didn't say he didn't care about regionals. What he said was the regionals job was to get people to mainline at the cheapest cost. He cares about regionals only in the fact that he cares how much it cost him to get people to the hubs. He cares in a money sense but he doesn't care about the pilots and their suffering.
Again, there's only one airline currently out there with a lower cost right now. If DP wants to dole out any wholly-owned flying to other carriers he's going to pay more to do it, plus lose the "in house profit" benefit. He's better off keeping the flying in-house and at least increasing the pay to match what it'd cost to outsource it in some attempt to maintain staffing here.

The only airline that I can think of that could potentially handle the staffing is Expressjet (ERJ side) since they're pretty much going to be gutted soon of all their 50 seaters, but again that is still going to cost more than any wholly-owned.
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Old 03-17-2016 | 06:14 PM
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Again, there's only one airline currently out there with a lower cost right now. If DP wants to dole out any wholly-owned flying to other carriers he's going to pay more to do it, plus lose the "in house profit" benefit. He's better off keeping the flying in-house and at least increasing the pay to match what it'd cost to outsource it in some attempt to maintain staffing here.

The only airline that I can think of that could potentially handle the staffing is Expressjet (ERJ side) since they're pretty much going to be gutted soon of all their 50 seaters, but again that is still going to cost more than any wholly-owned.
I'm not saying they will get rid of PSA and give away their plane I'm just saying they won't grow PSA. We are fully staffed and it won't take much to maintain what we have we just can't grow. What I'm saying is Parker will give away our planes to a cheaper place before he gives us more money. We may get a little more but I'm sure they know exactly how much it cost for each regional to do their flying and if giving us endeavor pay makes us one cent more expensive than say Mesa our flying will be given to them. Remember envoy is overstaffed and I'm sure would love to take any flying we can't do. Some where along the line the PSA pilots got in their minds that they had all this leverage and we only have leverage if we're cheap so unfortunately we won't get planes if we're paid more and we won't get pilots if we're not paid more. We're basically stuck where we are at with no real movement.
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Old 03-17-2016 | 07:02 PM
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To summarize it all: Doug Parker is still a POS.
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Old 03-17-2016 | 07:07 PM
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wrong not POS, but a BIG POS.
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Old 03-18-2016 | 02:30 AM
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Can one of you guys tell me what health insurance costs at PSA for a 'family?'
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Old 03-18-2016 | 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by YNWA1892
I'm not saying they will get rid of PSA and give away their plane I'm just saying they won't grow PSA. We are fully staffed and it won't take much to maintain what we have we just can't grow. What I'm saying is Parker will give away our planes to a cheaper place before he gives us more money. We may get a little more but I'm sure they know exactly how much it cost for each regional to do their flying and if giving us endeavor pay makes us one cent more expensive than say Mesa our flying will be given to them. Remember envoy is overstaffed and I'm sure would love to take any flying we can't do. Some where along the line the PSA pilots got in their minds that they had all this leverage and we only have leverage if we're cheap so unfortunately we won't get planes if we're paid more and we won't get pilots if we're not paid more. We're basically stuck where we are at with no real movement.
Well technically they keep saying (and even reiterated yesterday) that once we stop growing then the flow numbers will go up, so at least there's that positive if things do stop here...
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Old 03-18-2016 | 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Aurora8
Can one of you guys tell me what health insurance costs at PSA for a 'family?'
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$317/mo. for a family for the cheaper B plan. The A plan I can't remember but its basically ridiculous and I don't know anyone on it.
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