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04-03-2016 | 03:24 PM
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It does if an economic event or any other unforeseen event puts a pinch on travel and all of a sudden mainline doesn't need to hire like they have been. I'm not saying it would slow to the Mach turtle pace of the past decade, but it conceivably slow to a point of near stagnation for many.
Off the top of my head, out of 35-40,000 pilots at the 3 legacy carriers almost 30,000 of them retire in the next 15 years. That's not even counting anyone else.
There's about 15-18,000 regional pilots in the US.
There would have to be a global economic depression of unprecedented proportions to make a significant dent in those numbers.
The days of large FFD carriers, wholly owned or not, are numbered.
04-03-2016 | 03:42 PM
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I don't think we will see a dramatic increase either. They MAY offer up 1 more /month. Maybe. I don't see it going way up though. They did say however that once PSA has stopped growing, they would increase our flow. As I see it, we aren't likely to grow too much more.
And while I think that Endeavor and some of the other regionals are really leading the charge by raising compensation. The current hiring environment won't last forever and neither will the current economic situation. Market forces will eventually leave them in a less than favorable position. It's all about the money for our legacy partners. If Delta felt they could secure reliable feed for cheaper than that, they would in a heartbeat. That is currently what the market is demanding and Delta is paying. Eventually, the market won't be demanding it, and what then?
And while I think that Endeavor and some of the other regionals are really leading the charge by raising compensation. The current hiring environment won't last forever and neither will the current economic situation. Market forces will eventually leave them in a less than favorable position. It's all about the money for our legacy partners. If Delta felt they could secure reliable feed for cheaper than that, they would in a heartbeat. That is currently what the market is demanding and Delta is paying. Eventually, the market won't be demanding it, and what then?
04-03-2016 | 04:30 PM
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Just the messenger:
We need to get pilots here NOW. We need to take this retention bonus to keep pilots here and bring in new hires or the upgrades won't happen, flow will stop, schedules will get worse, and planes will be parked or shifted around.
Envoy is pulling 145s out of the desert, clearly they're staffing. WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU WANT THIS TO HAPPEN?? Demand the MEC to take the deal, email them NOW! THE OFFER IS STILL THERE. TAKE WHAT YOU CAN GET NOW.
Go for contract gains later, like in June when we meet with the company to renegotiate the flow.
We need to get pilots here NOW. We need to take this retention bonus to keep pilots here and bring in new hires or the upgrades won't happen, flow will stop, schedules will get worse, and planes will be parked or shifted around.
Envoy is pulling 145s out of the desert, clearly they're staffing. WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU WANT THIS TO HAPPEN?? Demand the MEC to take the deal, email them NOW! THE OFFER IS STILL THERE. TAKE WHAT YOU CAN GET NOW.
Go for contract gains later, like in June when we meet with the company to renegotiate the flow.
04-03-2016 | 05:04 PM
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Taking the retention bonus. I think there were some caveats that weren't made public. And in my opinion, the union represents ALL pilots. Not just FOs. All pilots deserve a bonus. In the end, it wouldn't be worth succumbing to a divisive negotiating tactic for the sake of a little extra money.
04-03-2016 | 05:10 PM
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New pilots are not showing up for $15,000 UP-FRONT bonuses! What makes you think that they would show up for two $10,000 retention bonuses, paid over 2 years?
04-03-2016 | 05:15 PM
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Taking the retention bonus. I think there were some caveats that weren't made public. And in my opinion, the union represents ALL pilots. Not just FOs. All pilots deserve a bonus. In the end, it wouldn't be worth succumbing to a divisive negotiating tactic for the sake of a little extra money.
04-03-2016 | 05:18 PM
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04-03-2016 | 05:18 PM
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