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04-09-2016 | 10:08 AM
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http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/agc/pol_adjudication/agc200/interpretations/data/interps/2014/Anderson-Teamsters357%20-1-%20(2014)%20Legal%20Interpretation.pdf
This is a different subject but also a lot of conflicting answers will come if the question is asked can the company ask me questions if I refuse a FDP extension. Or do I have to call in fatigued if I don't exsept.
This is a different subject but also a lot of conflicting answers will come if the question is asked can the company ask me questions if I refuse a FDP extension. Or do I have to call in fatigued if I don't exsept.
04-09-2016 | 11:11 AM
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Hmm.
Version 4 published with alpa 117 app and has a Dec 2015.
Same q98. Same result.
Still illegal...
Even with Anderson, It is all about when extended.
117 defines the FDP and its legal application not the contract.
Apply Anderson...very clear "when a FDP has ended 117.25(e) Requires a flight crew member be provided with a 10 hour minimum...."
This is why the alpa guidance is unchanged to version 4.
Over and out.
04-09-2016 | 11:44 AM
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Hmm.
Version 4 published with alpa 117 app and has a Dec 2015.
Same q98. Same result.
Still illegal...
Even with Anderson, It is all about when extended.
117 defines the FDP and its legal application not the contract.
Apply Anderson...very clear "when a FDP has ended 117.25(e) Requires a flight crew member be provided with a 10 hour minimum...."
This is why the alpa guidance is unchanged to version 4.
Over and out.
Version 4 published with alpa 117 app and has a Dec 2015.
Same q98. Same result.
Still illegal...
Even with Anderson, It is all about when extended.
117 defines the FDP and its legal application not the contract.
Apply Anderson...very clear "when a FDP has ended 117.25(e) Requires a flight crew member be provided with a 10 hour minimum...."
This is why the alpa guidance is unchanged to version 4.
Over and out.
04-09-2016 | 04:18 PM
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You're right, it was question 98 that I should've been referring to. But even then, it states that one can be reassigned prior to the end of the FDP, and the contract defines end of the FDP as 15 minutes after block. If you want to play hard ball with scheduling don't call them until 15 minutes after block.
But at the same time remember that that document is an ALPA interpretation of 117 and it's later FAA interpretations. If you want to keep playing this game that support your position with actual regulation and FAA interpretations instead. The Anderson letter is real interesting reading.
But at the same time remember that that document is an ALPA interpretation of 117 and it's later FAA interpretations. If you want to keep playing this game that support your position with actual regulation and FAA interpretations instead. The Anderson letter is real interesting reading.
It reads 15 min after block in or when released by scheduling. Which ever is later.
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