Waitingformins

I am gonna go with Silver, could be Lakes though. Your defentally no former Comair, DHL, or Pinnacle guy. I have a hunch, you went to the first crappyist place that hired you, and have taken every job offer you've ever had.

FourPutt

Do you understand the point of collective bargaining? We pool all of our dues together for the benefits of the entire group, not just FOs. Like I said I would never expect a bonus as a member of a union that wasn't distributed to everyone. I wasn't given a quick upgrade, it took me over 9 years to finally EARN it, maybe if you get stuck in the right seat for nearly a decade you will see it differently.

FourPutt

Your defentally korrect on that won, congradulayshons.

IceManCRJ

Would've loved been stuck in the right seat for the last 10 years and unfortunately they were not hiring. So while you enjoyed an airline job as a career. I and others waited, climbing some other career ladder hoping for the opportunity to have a flying job. Do t give me your nine years of earned it. How many hours did you have when you got hired 300?


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MitchRapp

It is getting harder and harder to take you seriously with each post. Defentally?

YNWA1892

I understand collective bargaining and that's not what was going on is what you guys don't realize. You can't bargain when you have nothing to offer. My guess is if we got offered nothing none of our CAs would leave any sooner than they would if they got offered $20,000 as well? That money isn't going to stop any of our CAs from flowing or going to other better jobs so why would the company offer the CAs any thing. When our CAs are leaving and our senior FOs are leaving then we have some thing to bargain with but they arnt. I understand you paid your dues but that doesn't mean we should take some thing away from current struggling FOs. You're on your third airline and has collective bargaining worked for any of your other airlines? I bet AA cares a lot less about how PSA is doing than we want to believe. The only people at PSA that have bargaining power are new hires. B the company proved yesterday they have no problem offering new hires bonuses and leaving the rest out. What's to stop them from offering much more than $20,000 to new hires to come here and nothing to the rest? Will the senior CAs leave and not flow? Will the junior CAs jump ship and go back to FOs or be direct entry and sit at the bottom of a seniority list again? Will the close the upgrade FOs leave? The only people in danger if leaving are brand new people and I just don't see why AA would offer people money to stay when they will stay for free.

Blueskies67

I don't think some of you guys get it. The retention bonus wasn't to keep FOs from jumping ship to LLCs like some of you guys are saying, it was to keep current FOs from not leaving for places like endevor which honestly they should. Captain's pay is not well below industry standard here but FO pay is. The union keep money out of the pockets of FOs who probably need it to most for the chance that maybe they will get something too. It's disgusting how greedy some people are.

Waitingformins

It's hard to text up here, we need a smoother ride.

FourPutt

I had 1,000 hrs when hired, you are thinking of all the Eagle pilots that got hired without their commercial multi and only 250 hrs back in 2008 when (shockingly) they couldn't get enough new hires. I did earn it because the FAA said you need 1,000 SIC hours just to attempt to upgrade while those senior to me did not earn enough SIC time yet. You would have loved being stuck in the right seat for 10 years you say? You are already complaining and saying captains haven't earned their upgrade and you've been flying 121 for what 1 year? Why not just sit back and love your time as an FO now instead of complaining about not getting a bonus?

INVERTED

Wheew.....guess it's time to go back on military leave for a bit.