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Old 04-15-2016 | 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted by cr700
You PSA guys dug your own graves by signing that concessionary deal. That put Envoy in a bad situation for a while but we recovered and AA realized our value. Your are obviously jealous that WE are being positioned as the premiere national carrier for American Airlines. Everything we have over here is far superior to anything you PSA types have. We have the best flow, best contract and very soon our upgrades are going to be in the 2.5 year range. It's my understanding you can't even upgrade anymore due to the mass exodus of pilots from your lowball company.
Does anyone else roll their eyes when they read this stuff?
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Old 04-15-2016 | 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
Does anyone else roll their eyes when they read this stuff?

Completely. The only thing envoy has on Psa is better bases. I have been at Psa a year and sat a total of 12 days reserve. The envoy guy on my jump seat had been with envoy for 2.5 yrs and was hoping to be off reserve by July this year. Envoy guys tell us how awesome lost days are again. Oh and round one. You guys have no idea what that is. SAP is the best QOL tool industry wide.


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Old 04-15-2016 | 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by cr700
We have the best flow, best contract and very soon our upgrades are going to be in the 2.5 year range. It's my understanding you can't even upgrade anymore due to the mass exodus of pilots from your lowball company.
How's ole Charlie Bucket doing? He's coming up on his 1 year..he's a line holder now right? Upgrades are down to 8 years now!
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Old 04-15-2016 | 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by IceManCRJ
The envoy guy on my jump seat had been with envoy for 2.5 yrs and was hoping to be off reserve by July this year.
That's not possible as any Envoy pilot will tell you upgrade time is 2.5 years and flow is 6.
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Old 04-15-2016 | 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by cr700
You PSA guys dug your own graves by signing that concessionary deal. That put Envoy in a bad situation for a while but we recovered and AA realized our value. Your are obviously jealous that WE are being positioned as the premiere national carrier for American Airlines. Everything we have over here is far superior to anything you PSA types have. We have the best flow, best contract and very soon our upgrades are going to be in the 2.5 year range. It's my understanding you can't even upgrade anymore due to the mass exodus of pilots from your lowball company.
You'll be singing a different tune when you are tacked on to the bottom of our list. It's coming.
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Old 04-15-2016 | 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 272922
Apparently you neglected to read my last post. And while you're at it educate yourself on scope choke.

Bottom line: your assertions aren't supported by logic.
Obviously you receive some personal benefit that the rest of us do not by supporting the company the way you do.

It's been a few days now, read us that story again how we should fly it and grieve it.
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Old 04-15-2016 | 06:38 AM
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How many people are in the new hire classes? Has PSA improved the contract for new hires?
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Old 04-15-2016 | 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by FirstClass
Obviously you receive some personal benefit that the rest of us do not by supporting the company the way you do.

It's been a few days now, read us that story again how we should fly it and grieve it.
Don't need to re-read it; the CP was wrong, but unless he was asking them to do something illegal under the FARs or contrary to safety the best course of action, for better or worse, is fly it and grieve it.

But since nuance is not in your vocabulary I don't expect you to understand that, just like you can't seem to wrap your head around the idea that having a ton of low paid regional pilots under representation isn't some ALPA conspiracy.
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Old 04-15-2016 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by deskflier
How many people are in the new hire classes? Has PSA improved the contract for new hires?
Yes, they improved just for new hires bonus money and after you pass the training you will get a virgin)
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Old 04-15-2016 | 07:12 AM
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PSA is a regional
Envoy is a regional
Peadmont is a regional

All three have made their fair share of mistakes, and it would appear all three will continue to make mistakes for the foreseeable future. Bottom line if all three don't stop blaming one another, there are still carriers like Mesa, Republic, TSA, Skywest that will be happy to use the infighting to take us all down a peg. Letting the step sibling wars come to an end might be a good idea sometime in the future is what I am getting at. I know crazy thinking on my part!
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