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Old 04-29-2016, 05:43 AM
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There are no plans to move away. They plan a substantial increase in widebody hours over the next 4 years. Forum hysteria is seldom fact.
One thing Delta has been doing is matching capacity to demand. That is why they are generating the large revenue premium over other airlines. In turn that is allowing them to rapidly pay down debt. When the next downturn comes the airlines with the least debt will furlough the fewest pilots.
And be sure, it is coming... Our economy is almost anemic after the past decade.
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Old 04-29-2016, 05:48 AM
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This, to be exact. Delta has made it very clear that they ultimately plan to move away from international wide body flying with Delta pilots.
Show me a reputable source besides the Delta forums.
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Old 04-29-2016, 06:05 AM
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This, to be exact. Delta has made it very clear that they ultimately plan to move away from international wide body flying with Delta pilots.

Why Airbus Got a Big Order From Delta Air Lines Inc. -- The Motley Fool

Delta Has 194 Aircraft Order Commitments, Including Five 757s
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Old 04-29-2016, 06:57 AM
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Health insurance premiums are about $110/month for one person with a $500 deductible and $1000 max out of pocket.

CLT might take three months or after IOE. You would probably hold a line fairly quick in CLT considering the amount of reserve FOs is decreasing. My guess is 2-3 months of reserve in CLT until you're holding a line. In training and on reserve, expect 75 hours of pay a month. Once holding a line, you can expect 75-105+ hours of pay, depending on how much you want to work and can comprehend the collective bargaining agreement.
I'm sorry but it's my duty to call BS to this post. Currently it is taking 10 months to get CLT for PSA FO, and once they get clt short call is the name of the game. Recruiters are lieing to new hires on time it takes to get Charlotte based. Cheers

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Old 04-29-2016, 08:04 AM
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I'm sorry but it's my duty to call BS to this post. Currently it is taking 10 months to get CLT for PSA FO, and once they get clt short call is the name of the game. Recruiters are lieing to new hires on time it takes to get Charlotte based. Cheers

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I have to disagree with you. I know july hires who got CLT in March and April. Thats 7-8 months. Also, those hires weren't on the line until I think October. So thats 5-6 months on the line out of the desired base

This isn't a pro psa post, just a correction. Also, I doubt that "quicker" movement will continue.
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Old 04-29-2016, 11:44 AM
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I'm sorry but it's my duty to call BS to this post. Currently it is taking 10 months to get CLT for PSA FO, and once they get clt short call is the name of the game. Recruiters are lieing to new hires on time it takes to get Charlotte based. Cheers

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Look at the bid awards on flica, then take the most junior pilot in CLT and look at their hire date on the seniority list. The awards on flica show up for everyone, regardless of your base and seat.

I just did this, it took me all but two minutes and the most junior pilot on the award for CLT FOs is an October 2015 hire. That is seven months total, but three months are spent in training, so figure this person has four months of line flying and they're based in CLT.

Call BS all you want, it's simple math.

7 months longevity - 3 months in training = 4 months on line the

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Old 04-29-2016, 12:45 PM
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Look at the bid awards on flica, then take the most junior pilot in CLT and look at their hire date on the seniority list. The awards on flica show up for everyone, regardless of your base and seat.

I just did this, it took me all but two minutes and the most junior pilot on the award for CLT FOs is an October 2015 hire. That is seven months total, but three months are spent in training, so figure this person has four months of line flying and they're based in CLT.

Call BS all you want, it's simple math.

7 months longevity - 3 months in training = 4 months on line the

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Actually your original post said CLT in 3 months OR after IOE which would be 3 months from date of hire. Perhaps you misspoke and meant to meant to say 3-4 months AFTER IOE, which is 7 months from Date of Hire. That is more plausible.

However that person will still be the most junior person on short call reserve. I don't know the date of hire for the most junior round 1 line holder in CLT, but I would guess that it is still over 1.5 year from date of hire, not the 6 months you alluded to.

Perhaps someone else can post the DOH for the junior line holder in CLT.

Also attempting to comparing the movement now to the movement of last July when the junior FO in CLT was hired is comparing apples and oranges. There have been very few new hires and almost non existent upgrades in the last 4 months. Movement is much slower now than it was last July.
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Old 04-29-2016, 01:02 PM
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Actually your original post said CLT in 3 months OR after IOE which would be 3 months from date of hire. Perhaps you misspoke and meant to meant to say 3-4 months AFTER IOE, which is 7 months from Date of Hire. That is more plausible.

However that person will still be the most junior person on short call reserve. I don't know the date of hire for the most junior round 1 line holder in CLT, but I would guess that it is still over 1.5 year from date of hire, not the 6 months you alluded to.

Perhaps someone else can post the DOH for the junior line holder in CLT.

Also attempting to comparing the movement now to the movement of last July when the junior FO in CLT was hired is comparing apples and oranges. There have been very few new hires and almost non existent upgrades in the last 4 months. Movement is much slower now than it was last July.
Round 1 in CLT FO for May went down to 1 year, 3 months seniority. Buildup line went to just under 1 year.
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Round 1 in CLT FO for May went down to 1 year, 3 months seniority. Buildup line went to just under 1 year.
Someone is on the new forums.......
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Old 04-29-2016, 01:14 PM
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Any ready the "This week at PSA" email? Notice the "reasons you love PSA didn't include flow or pay? Kinda funny how they talk all about how amazing the flow is, yet unknowingly just admitted to everyone that no one is talking or caring about it cause it's so worthless.
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