Search
Notices
PSA Airlines Regional Airline

PSA info

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-27-2016, 06:28 AM
  #5151  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Posts: 2,487
Default

Originally Posted by irrelevant View Post
Yes, every w-2 dollar I earn at PSA is taxed at 39.6%, because if I didn't earn it, I'd still be paying 39.6% on the "last dollar earned". It is absolutely in my interest to reduce my w-2 income by maxing the 401(k) contribution. It's not about earning less - it's about retaining and growing more of what little I earn flying airplanes.
My main point (however poorly stated) that people need to hear is that earning enough to put you into a higher tax bracket doesn't automatically go back and tax all of your earnings below that bracket at a higher rate. So when I hear people say that don't want to earn enough to put them in a higher tax bracket I tend to groan a little inside because it seems obvious that there's something they don't understand.

Now if you have enough passive income (or you're married to a doc) that you can afford to max out a 401(k) while still having enough to maintain whatever lifestyle you expect, then by all means. BUT, if one's income is under the limits for a Roth IRA, then they should max out their 401(k) match, then the Roth, then back to the 401(k).
TallFlyer is offline  
Old 11-27-2016, 06:53 AM
  #5152  
Gets Weekends Off
 
PleaseComplete's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Nov 2016
Posts: 371
Default

Originally Posted by SkyknightJohn View Post
Agreed on both. Printing much of it and building a file helps. Also, I'm approaching it a little like the military... show up and learn the real scoop from the people doing the training, rather than the recruiter. Plan for the worst, be happy when it turns out different. AMEN

A big confusing point I have is when does pay & per diem start? Earlier in the thread it was indicated we are not "on property" until FO class. This agrees with what the recruiters suggested in the interview (i.e. don't pass the ATP-CTP=not hired.) However, my new hire forms all listed the first day of ATP-CTP as my DOH. Anyone recently through care to chime in?
(still planning to not be paid until FO begins, but would be happy to find out different.)
Another DEC 5th/19th class guy here.

Pay does not begin until 19th, as I understand it.

It stated such somewhere...
PleaseComplete is offline  
Old 11-27-2016, 08:21 AM
  #5153  
Roll’n Thunder
 
Joined APC: Oct 2009
Position: Pilot
Posts: 3,562
Default

Pay, per diem, and DOH all start day 1 of indoc. Your hotels are covered though during the CTP course.
tennisguru is offline  
Old 11-27-2016, 09:17 AM
  #5154  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 425
Default

Originally Posted by TallFlyer View Post
My main point (however poorly stated) that people need to hear is that earning enough to put you into a higher tax bracket doesn't automatically go back and tax all of your earnings below that bracket at a higher rate. So when I hear people say that don't want to earn enough to put them in a higher tax bracket I tend to groan a little inside because it seems obvious that there's something they don't understand.

Now if you have enough passive income (or you're married to a doc) that you can afford to max out a 401(k) while still having enough to maintain whatever lifestyle you expect, then by all means. BUT, if one's income is under the limits for a Roth IRA, then they should max out their 401(k) match, then the Roth, then back to the 401(k).
We are in agreement on all of these points. Fear of paying a higher tax rate is irrational when tax rates are progressive.
irrelevant is offline  
Old 11-27-2016, 06:50 PM
  #5155  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Apr 2015
Posts: 323
Default

Originally Posted by SkyknightJohn View Post
Agreed on both. Printing much of it and building a file helps. Also, I'm approaching it a little like the military... show up and learn the real scoop from the people doing the training, rather than the recruiter. Plan for the worst, be happy when it turns out different.

A big confusing point I have is when does pay & per diem start? Earlier in the thread it was indicated we are not "on property" until FO class. This agrees with what the recruiters suggested in the interview (i.e. don't pass the ATP-CTP=not hired.) However, my new hire forms all listed the first day of ATP-CTP as my DOH. Anyone recently through care to chime in?
(still planning to not be paid until FO begins, but would be happy to find out different.)
You are not considered an employee until day 1 of new hire indoc. You are not considered an employee in the ATP/CTP course. I can't speak to the pay other than the CTP course if being provided for you free of charge. It does not come out of your bonus like some airlines do. I would imagine pay and per diem will start day 1 of new hire class.
MitchRapp is offline  
Old 11-28-2016, 04:47 AM
  #5156  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Sep 2016
Posts: 155
Default

Originally Posted by PleaseComplete View Post
Another DEC 5th/19th class guy here.

Pay does not begin until 19th, as I understand it.

It stated such somewhere...
What do you mean another DEC? Are they doing this again?
Duck Sausage is offline  
Old 11-28-2016, 04:55 AM
  #5157  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Posts: 2,487
Default

Originally Posted by Duck Sausage View Post
What do you mean another DEC? Are they doing this again?
Pretty sure he means December.

There will be no street CA hiring in the foreseeable future.
TallFlyer is offline  
Old 11-28-2016, 05:02 AM
  #5158  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Sep 2016
Posts: 155
Default

Whew, I was like s.o.b. I'm out. Dec. for December from now on. Nothing against DECs trust me but don't want to keep the trend going here.
Duck Sausage is offline  
Old 11-28-2016, 05:56 AM
  #5159  
On Reserve
 
Joined APC: Mar 2015
Posts: 18
Default

Originally Posted by soitgoes View Post
Two quick questions:

1. Received an email about the CTP course saying, "You will be transported to Cincinnati Muncipal-Lunken Airport to take the written test on December 15 or December 16". Is this to take the actual ATP written, or is this the end-of-course test for the CTP portion, and we're responsible for setting-up the ATP written on our own?

2. Does anyone have any gouge on training dates for the holiday period? Class start date is the 19th, so I'll obviously be in training for Xmas and New Year's... I understand we get those holidays off, but since they both fall on the weekend this year, would anyone have a clue how that works out? Not a big deal really, just trying to figure out how much time I'll have to pack up the family and divy-up trips between all the different family members, if any...

Thanks
You will have the 24th, 25th, 31st and 1st off.
Perry White is offline  
Old 11-28-2016, 06:24 AM
  #5160  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Nov 2016
Posts: 123
Default

Originally Posted by Perry White View Post
You will have the 24th, 25th, 31st and 1st off.


Could I ask how you came about this information? Not doubting... "Trust, but verify".
soitgoes is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Joliet
PSA Airlines
47
02-23-2017 07:35 PM
JetJock16
Regional
63
04-08-2016 05:05 PM
Jetstream 823JS
PSA Airlines
154
03-21-2016 02:53 PM
FirstClass
PSA Airlines
32
03-19-2016 04:42 PM
AnotherEagleGuy
PSA Airlines
50
12-02-2015 04:58 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices