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Old 02-05-2016 | 06:32 AM
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According to management were staffed for current flying... I'd imagine that, plus the two large upgrade classes that just went through, plus reduced winter flying play a part in that.

Two large? There was one large class of 30. That's it.


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Old 02-05-2016 | 06:46 AM
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it was a strangely timed 30 pilot upgrade class however. Right before the new year ( just before the 62 or whatever it is starts to count for the increase in flow ), coupled with the fact it started I think the week of christmas or new years, when they new the training center would be closed?

And every single class after that has been 4 or less... nice one ALPA
Didn't the class of 30 get postponed till after the New Years? At least that was my understanding
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Old 02-05-2016 | 06:51 AM
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The class of 30 upgrades counts towards increasing the flow numbers, don't know why some of you think they don't. Email your rep if you don't believe it.
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Old 02-05-2016 | 06:52 AM
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The class of 30 upgrades counts towards increasing the flow numbers, don't know why some of you think they don't. Email your rep if you don't believe it.

It counts. Once they finish Supervised line flying then they will be "active captains"


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Old 02-05-2016 | 08:30 AM
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And every single class after that has been 4 or less... nice one ALPA
quick upgrade gravy train over? and dont blame ALPA, blame the pilot group that voted in the contract.
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Old 02-05-2016 | 08:46 AM
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quick upgrade gravy train over? and dont blame ALPA, blame the pilot group that voted in the contract.
What are you even talking about? Who is blaming ALPA for anything? I think most here have been happy with the improvements voted in with the last TA and with the original contract that brought the 900s on board. And yet somehow, no damage was done to the industry. Look at all the pilot groups making huge gains right now. And yet you people still love to come over here and beat that same little tired drum you love to beat.
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Old 02-05-2016 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
What are you even talking about? Who is blaming ALPA for anything? I think most here have been happy with the improvements voted in with the last TA and with the original contract that brought the 900s on board. And yet somehow, no damage was done to the industry. Look at all the pilot groups making huge gains right now. And yet you people still love to come over here and beat that same little tired drum you love to beat.
did you not read the quote in my post? i guess not.
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Old 02-05-2016 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
According to management were staffed for current flying... I'd imagine that, plus the two large upgrade classes that just went through, plus reduced winter flying play a part in that.
I wonder how long that will last
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Old 02-05-2016 | 09:18 AM
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did you not read the quote in my post? i guess not.
What's the matter did someone **** in your Cheerios that you're going around the different threads making worthless comments? 😆
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Old 02-05-2016 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
What are you even talking about? Who is blaming ALPA for anything? I think most here have been happy with the improvements voted in with the last TA and with the original contract that brought the 900s on board. And yet somehow, no damage was done to the industry. Look at all the pilot groups making huge gains right now. And yet you people still love to come over here and beat that same little tired drum you love to beat.
I think he's saying this last deal created a conflict of interest for mgnt to upgrade more pilots. The more they upgrade the more will flow making their problems worse, so the fix is to, more than ever, upgrade as few as possible. The flow is not a recruiting tool, it is a retention tool. I haven't talked to a single captain that's been here longer than two years that is even considering leaving.
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