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Old 02-26-2016 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by jkole8
We fought for years through bankruptcy, merger. You guys bent over faster than your mom last Friday night. BTW I voted "against" concessions EVERY time. You f-ers undercut us the day after we rejected a B scale offer. You set the bar back years for the entire industry.
Holding a grudge is letting someone live rent free in your head.
Get over it!!
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Old 02-26-2016 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 1stCivDivPilot
My career is going just fine. I've volunteered but since I'm not the "right type of guy" I didn't get a call back. Not interested in helping bail out this company. I'll get my time, with my military background and move along. AA has invested a lot but a little bit of paint and some new signs and PSA goes away but AA gets to keep THEIR investment. They invested a lot in Envoy too but that didn't stop them from giving away the aircraft. Since you're such a cheerleader and think this management is amazing, did you apply? They're always looking for new yes men.
I have done my time in airline management, probably when you were still a child. I choose to be positive. I work to help the company I work for because I want them to be successful. Cheerleader? No. I just have a different perspective than you and a hell of a lot more experience.
Why didn't your military time get you straight to a major?
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Old 02-26-2016 | 08:02 AM
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I have done my time in airline management, probably when you were still a child. I choose to be positive. I work to help the company I work for because I want them to be successful. Cheerleader? No. I just have a different perspective than you and a hell of a lot more experience.
Why didn't your military time get you straight to a major?
As I'm 40 years old, I doubt you're much older than me, if at all. If you're so old, why aren't you at a major? You could have been there prior to 2001. You can choose to be positive and blind. I choose to be realistic and plan for the worst. AA invested years ago with very little since. We're a "growing" airline with a shrinking pilot group. That's not exactly a plan for success. Even if they turned things around today, we are 4-6 months at the earliest from seeing the effects on the line.

More experience? I would gladly compare aircraft I've flown in the foreign countries and conditions I've flown against your record.

I have to get the helo stink off me. But I guess with your myopic view of the world, every military pilot was a fighter pilot.
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Old 02-26-2016 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by jkole8
We fought for years through bankruptcy, merger. You guys bent over faster than your mom last Friday night. BTW I voted "against" concessions EVERY time. You f-ers undercut us the day after we rejected a B scale offer. You set the bar back years for the entire industry.
You have the worst CBA of any wholly owned and your pre bankruptcy contract from wasn't even at the level of Comair, ACA, XJT, ASA, or AWAC so stop the holier than thou attitude because you have never worked under an industry leading contract. Go back to your eaglelounge echo chamber where you can get away with spouting off the same lame arguments.
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Old 02-26-2016 | 08:09 AM
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You have the worst CBA of any wholly owned and your pre bankruptcy contract from wasn't even at the level of Comair, ACA, XJT, ASA, or AWAC so stop the holier than thou attitude because you have never worked under an industry leading contract. Go back to your eaglelounge echo chamber where you can get away with spouting off the same lame arguments.
I dunno... I think SAP > anything EVY and PDT brings to the table. I'm crediting 98 hours this month and I've had 14 nights at home, 12 hard days off.
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Old 02-26-2016 | 08:15 AM
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Cheerleader? No. I just have a different perspective.....
You certainly were a cheerleader for the flow and look at that great deal we got.
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Old 02-26-2016 | 09:25 AM
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I dunno... I think SAP > anything EVY and PDT brings to the table. I'm crediting 98 hours this month and I've had 14 nights at home, 12 hard days off.
Yes that was the point of my post bruh.
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Old 02-26-2016 | 09:49 AM
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well you can only reduce zero to zero so much.
Really dude, you just now surface to ridicule PSA, which you know they will never touch a RAH airplane.

Envoy is in the best position to fly the MidAtlantic E-jets and/or the 2011 Horton order. You have the audacity to deflect it to PSA. I think it was the Eagle and Republic pilots that got into a fight in the ORD crew van back in 2011 when Eagle was mad at the last company that took "their" flying.

The Rah filling proves beyond all reasonable doubt that the RJ FFD business model is facing serious consolidation and NO ONE not Envoy, RAH, PSA, Piedmont, or Endeavor wants to end up on the bottom of some else's list.
I am very certain that's why Envoy's last vote passed by a wide margin.
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Old 02-26-2016 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 1stCivDivPilot
You certainly were a cheerleader for the flow and look at that great deal we got.
Don't remember cheerleading about flow but it's a good thing. I'm sure it means nothing to you because of your military experience. You can go anywhere you want.
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Old 02-26-2016 | 01:31 PM
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Don't remember cheerleading about flow but it's a good thing. I'm sure it means nothing to you because of your military experience. You can go anywhere you want.
I don't think it means anything to anyone. Anyone dumb enough to wait around for a flow agreement deserves to get comaired
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