Since I was infracted for not using nice language and offending someone I will repost.

Our industry requires us to suck up to as many people as possible from many different companies regardless of being over qualified for the position.

Most industries want qualified people to fill the needed slots. They like you, you like them and it’s all done. Both parties happy.

Not the airlines. You have to go around proving you are willing to outspend, out travel, out pace and suck up more than your peers for a job that we are already doing. It’s not liking flying a mainline jet is in anyway shape or form different than flying a regional.

Anyway sorry for the offensive language of the first post. 🙄

 

And that right there is probably part of your problem. You think you are in the “flying airplanes” business. Flying airplanes is your technical skill, but just about every pilot position I can think of is in the customer service industry. Air show pilots have to keep sponsees happy. Crop dusters have to keep farmers happy. Cargo, the cargo clients.
Probably 90% of the issues I dealt with in day to day pax flying dealt with customer service, leaving the cockpit and dealing with issues. If you can’t display that skill most pax carriers don’t want you. Heck, even in the cargo world you still have to deal with “clients”. Loadmasters, ground people who don’t speak English, you name it.

 

Yeah. We are already doing that as pilots. What is your point? I very rarely have to deal with any customer issue anymore and in fact is advised not to get involved in absolutely needed.

 

Who advised you not to get involved? So you just hide in your cockpit and let gate agents explain problems? You do know some legacy carriers track that stuff with their feeder regionals. If you’re one of those captains don’t expect to get a call from them as you are demonstrating in your day to day operations that you don’t match their values.

 

Okay Captain America, thanks for the hot tip. I am sure the gate agents just love seeing your 4 bars coming to help fix (read complicate) every little issue.

 

No, not fix problems. But often explain to pax what's going on. And yeah, most gate agents do appreciate it- but you ask first, genius. Of course, you're probably afraid to tell a pilot to his/her face that you're denying them your jumpseat. So I can see why you want to hide behind a gate agent.

 

Cool, I am sure everybody appreciates you mansplaning them what the situation is Captain America. Sick leeway into the jumpseating issue dude! Sorry you're still ****ed your UALPA caved on first priority on non-exclusive UAX flights.

 

You know, I've never heard a pax or gate agent say they didn't appreciate it. But I have often heard them say they did.
Example. There's bad weather causing a ground delay at LGA. People pull up the weather and see that weather is fine in NYC and start getting ****ed because they think they're being lied to. You ask the agent if they would like you to make an announcement about it. They are more than happy to give you the mike. You tell the pax that, while the weather is nice in NYC, it stinks in DC area. Your arrival corridor goes through DC. Thus your flight, along with a bunch of other flights are rerouted and there's a traffic backup. People aren't happy about the delay, but they are no longer POed at the airline.
Again, it's called customer service. But you go ahead and hide in your cockpit and keep wondering why you don't get a call to a major.

 

lol, like someone would say they don't appreciate something even when they didn't. I guess you haven't been around humans for that long. I'm sure they let you interrupt to manspain the situation to them so you can have your little moment, but what you don't see is them rolling their eyes to each other after you leave.

btw, the scenario you gave had nothing to do with what Cyio was talking about. It's a basic part of every pilot's job, but thanks for manspaining that to us any way Captain America.

 

Well, yes it is. But you obviously aren't grasping it so- in your words- let me "mansplain" it to you.
Your piloting capabilities are something that is usually easy to define. A view of hours, type of flying, type ratings, failures, violations, etc.
Less easy to define is the human nature part of someone, how they interact with people.
Cyio, in his post, referenced flying ability and the fact that flying a regional is no different than flying a mainline. Having flown both regional turboprops, RJ's and heavy transports I would say that's not quite the case, but I get what he is saying. What he fails to see is that the other things, "sucking up" "traveling and paying money" (I assume to attend conferences) is where you can demonstrate an ability or a lack of ability to interact in a social environment with other people. Something that is tougher for people hiring to judge.
This is also a lesson you have failed to grasp. The thing is, you never know who you will interact with in this business. In your case, you obviously have a bunch of pent up hostility. I don't think I've read a post by you where you don't display this. Even a forum such as this where you are "anonymous" your demeaner can have an impact on your future. I've seen pilots blow interviews who didn't even know they were being interviewed.
So lighten up Francis. And remember, it's Captain America SIR when you address me.