Mesaba's dispute?
05-27-2011 | 12:00 PM
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Is it true that if you don't pass your checkride, you are not offered a job?
05-27-2011 | 12:01 PM
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05-27-2011 | 12:04 PM
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Not really far off the mark Erickson.
First off I appreciate you running for elected positions and your work for ALPA. I am sure we have the same goals, but what differs is how to reach them.
With that said, failed leadership under your watch has brought the Pinnacle pilots to what they are today. I will be putting my support for Tom Wychor. I know you are running for Vice-Chair, but we will need both you and C.S not to be apart of this particular MEC.
First off I appreciate you running for elected positions and your work for ALPA. I am sure we have the same goals, but what differs is how to reach them.
With that said, failed leadership under your watch has brought the Pinnacle pilots to what they are today. I will be putting my support for Tom Wychor. I know you are running for Vice-Chair, but we will need both you and C.S not to be apart of this particular MEC.
05-27-2011 | 12:06 PM
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From what I understand, the list submitted at the start if negotiations had a column listing original DOH and another with corrected DOH for the start of class. The company maintained the list, and after the JCBA was ratified original DOH was no longer data that was relevant to the seniority list and the conpany removed it. Then at the last minute when Bloch requested the most current list (which had to come from the company, because they maintain the list) the company gave Bloch the only list they had, which again no longer listed the original DOH information. After which Mesaba had a cow.
05-27-2011 | 12:06 PM
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No they do. They are just cowards who hide behind anonymous screen names, like you and I. Or they start a facebook fan boy page and spill all the info there to the public. Our union reps use their names and if you don’t like what they post you can pick up the phone, email, or talk in person to them about what they said. You and I can say whatever we want and I promise we wont hear a peep of it from anyone at work. So stop judging our guys for commenting on here. I actually believe what they say and I am glad they say it on here to shut up all the lies and rumors. THEY are the only ones we can hold accountable for all the crap that is said.
Side Note: None of the people you are "referring" to are even union reps anymore.
Side Note: None of the people you are "referring" to are even union reps anymore.
05-27-2011 | 12:08 PM
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Did you not read anything I wrote over the past 3-4 pages? Within Pinnacle alone, my statement that seniority and DOH are not related is completely correct. That is why if DOH is to be any part of any SLI award, then you have to make some relation between our seniority and our DOH. The only way to do this is to adjust our DOH to our class start date, which is the same date our seniority was derived off of.
05-27-2011 | 12:10 PM
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No one liked Pinnacle's proposal for SLI. We might not have liked Mesaba or Colgan's, but the slander campaign has largely been driven by folks other than 9E pilots.
Can't we just grow up and leave the smack talk out of it? I suggest that every line pilot encourages their merger committee to start a 3 way dialog with the others so that facts can be presented between the actual important players.
05-27-2011 | 12:10 PM
#228
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That's not libel. Mesaba brought up factual information (yes, both Colgan and Pinnacle have crashed airplanes). I'm just saying that information shouldn't be a part of any SLI negotiations.
05-27-2011 | 12:13 PM
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So this begs the question? Should we call pro standards to have them and the union find out who the anonymous rumor mongers on public forums are? If the union reps don't address allegations on here, how many of the folks that post here are actually going to contact the union and ask questions, versus play the telephone game in the crew room with some rumor?
05-27-2011 | 12:13 PM
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Again, you won't quote your source, so I choose to not believe what you claim. Bye Bye.
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