One of my favorite movies!

Awesome movie, the youngsters won't have a clue though... How about a game of tic tac toe..lol

I have heard there are some military that are getting called during training. But nobody really know where people are going. Sometimes you can ask around. Our old SAPA site had some info but it wasn't updated very often. Most airlines will send out monthly reports, but I don't think they want to broadcast how many we are losing. They would rather just tell everyone that we are happy to welcome our 40 new hires and how our recruiters are really busy. We don't mention how our washout rate in increasing (or that we are increasing our attrition in TRG) or that our booth at FAPA was a ghost town.

If that information was known, then maybe our pilot group would realize they are going to have to increase 1st year pay to get people here regardless if we vote for it. Keeping us in the dark allows them to let us think we are a 3% pay increase away from being the next Comair. We don't want to look at other departments and realize there are several ways that we could save 10-15% and improve our QOL, but that would require us to do it a different way. SGU has just decided to stop working with the pilot group as a partner and would rather just send out emails to subtly keep the pressure on us, while CC sends Forbes an email telling them how safety is our #1 priority.

My number has gone up 145 spots since mid-November. That's an average of 29 a month. There are not that many guys below me on the seniority list. How did you come up with 170 pilots?

Wild ass question: chances of a new hire getting SFO right away? Can I request it as part of being hired, getting it in writing? I am a returning 121 older pilot, not a hobbyist, but have to stay in the bay area. Commuting is really not an option. Thought of Compass where I'd supposedly be a near street hire captain, but would have to commute to LAX. Also, Skywest needs to do the $30-$36 hour first year pay to get me in. Considering the business acumen I've seen, heard, or read about the regionals, my base request and money expectations probably wouldn't line up, no matter how badly they need to get any pilots in the door.

I had to Google it.

All available resources!

It sounds like something out of The Matrix. But I get what you are saying. My only thing is that while you are there, you might as well try. Just education makes a difference.

If not in class. Realy fast 1-3 months. 175 even faster..

Nobody will guarantee a base, because that would violate their seniority system, ie if a senior pilots wants an opening in SFO they cannot ignore him and give it to a new-hire.

It was common in the past for folks to go to mesa, hoping for a certain equipment/base and then simply walk out of training if they didn't get it. You could always do that. A better option, given all the movement, would be take what you get and then bid into SFO in a month or three. If the music stops for some reason and you got stuck in MSP you could always quit.