Originally Posted by Squallrider

In the manual it says we will have access to inflight WiFi if available wonder why?!

Originally Posted by MoovenUP

For those who think we would just get reflowed allllll over. How? Our turns are way to short, our precious performance would tank. A real problem is those pesky cameras on the efb man, they could turn those on and watch us flying. Yikes bro.

Originally Posted by disillusioned

Notes from the call yesterday said that SGU is willing to get a reflow team to chase you down at the airport like they do at SureJet. I say let's do it. How many pilots can one person reflow with EFB vs. chasing them down at the airport?

Originally Posted by saxman66

I haven't been reflowed very much, but the last time it happened they sent us to DH IAH to SFO, do a turn, overnight, and DH us back to IAH. Our original trip didn't even touch SFO. It was simply because we cancelled in IAH. They reflowed us just because they wanted to put us on something. I had plans with my dad that evening on the layover too. This reflow thing is a huge QOL for me, because I bid certain layovers and pairings.


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Originally Posted by disillusioned

Notes from the call yesterday said that SGU is willing to get a reflow team to chase you down at the airport like they do at SureJet. I say let's do it. How many pilots can one person reflow with EFB vs. chasing them down at the airport?

Originally Posted by saxman66

Not to be that guy, but any recent upgrades that took the first available in MSP or ORD. Are you getting people behind you to get off reserve or do senior guys keep coming in ahead of you, pushing you down? Just trying to plan my summer. Just ORD and MSP guys only.

Originally Posted by Squallrider

Haha sounds like Surejet and Envoy...Idk could be a fun game guess ill pack a fake mustache and a fake uniform in to get out of the plane haha...or sneak away with commo....oh wait they never come on time. If I was in SGU Id hire very attractive individuals to find crews...Im sure that would make it easier haha.

Originally Posted by Squallrider

I have been reflowed once in about 5 years, however I can see if they have the capability to do so more readily then maybe it would become more of an occurrence.

Originally Posted by Squallrider

Well Im pretty sure 2 out of 3 are on their way out which makes your argument null and void. You mean going to a legacy where the union is actually effective and working for you rather than against you? Yes I think everyone is happy paying money for something that has a return. Didn't express jet just sign a EFB revision that mirrors ours?

Originally Posted by MoovenUP

Thanks buddy, I will take all the slack I can get! Well ya see I would get 2 hours today because instead of waking up at 4:30 am and being done by 1:30pm I slept in till 10:30 and was done at 8:30pm (outside daily footprint) then tomorrow I am still on reflow but I am done earlier than my original release so I would get an extra hour. The other crew would have gotten 2 today for outside scheduled footprint two tomorrow because outside of scheduled footprint plus 3 tomorrow because it ends later than their original release time. IF they agreed to it... See the 3 hour deal outside of footprint is optional. Swell eh?



For the EFB.. I didn't buy an iPad because I figured we would get an EFB, and it will make us/SkyWest more efficient. I don't have any secret girlfriends on the road so I don't care where I spend the night. If they make me more efficient by flying instead of sitting for 3 hours in Detroit and I make more money than heck yeah max me out every day. Give me a 4 day that makes me 50 hours of credit with reflows deadheads and jumping over the moon. When I come to work I am away from the people I want to be with and not where I want to be most(sorry SkyWest crews your a fun group and I have good times but off time is still better ) when at work I wanna get paid. The reflow and efb help SkyWest give me more money. I know I know.. I'm the new guy what do I know?

Originally Posted by Crazy Canuck

Reflow policy means nothing if you turn your tablet off between flights and don't turn it back on until you get in the airplane. Personally, I plan to have the cell data OFF at all times. The only way we get screwed is if SAPA gives and allows the language "cell data must be on at all times" and/or "pilots are required to be notifiable via efb."



The reflow policy is fine because it gets us paid for what already happens.



Just my 2 cents.

Originally Posted by rickair7777

Some folks don't care where they fly. Many folks bid specific overnights for specific reasons, such as layovers in home town with family or long layovers to work out or work their other job (the REAL job, the one that allows them to work for a regional in the first place). For me all of those apply, it's a big QOL issue.

There was a time when I could bid productive trips. We once had a grueling 2-day that blocked about 8 hours each day with a short overnight, credited about 18, and got back at midnight. Not fun but that was the only trip you had to do most weeks, ie five days off/week. No with the gross inefficiencies due both to 117 and SGU, I have to build QOL into my trips.

YOU are a perfect example of why we do NOT want EFB notification...you're willing to accept any schedule so they can just leave you a VM, you'll call them back and get your reflow. VOLUNTARY reflow. I don't even mind EFB notification as long as it's voluntary, ie an "offer" not a "notification".

Now I tend to be something of a "company man" in that I'm a team player and want the organization to succeed. The company is claiming they need flexibility during IROPS...Ok, I buy that but the problem with SGU (or any other airline management) is if you give them an inch without a defined boundary, they'll take a mile. If we give them this carte blanche they will use it as an everyday staffing tool and very few folks will ever fly the schedule they bid or finish the trip they started. I'd be fine with mandatory reflow as long as it's limited, such as they can only reflow you once a month or during REAL IROPS caused by major weather (determined by some objective trigger, such as schools closed).

Originally Posted by MoovenUP

We have very little leverage. We are a regional. We dance for mainline. Cool your blood boil that ain't healthy. Have you seen our profit margin? Hurray we made 20 million in a quarter... But did you see net income? Our profit is a drop in the bucket. The ship has to be run tight or the few percent we call profit is gone. It is the market we are in.

Originally Posted by Is offline

This reflow policy stinks. If you are a commuter and have a nice 4 day that they take away and give you 4 locals you just went in the hole buying hotels in base. The notification is where I really have a problem.

Originally Posted by disillusioned

Notes from the call yesterday said that SGU is willing to get a reflow team to chase you down at the airport like they do at SureJet. I say let's do it. How many pilots can one person reflow with EFB vs. chasing them down at the airport?

Originally Posted by Squallrider

Haha sounds like Surejet and Envoy...Idk could be a fun game guess ill pack a fake mustache and a fake uniform in to get out of the plane haha...or sneak away with commo....oh wait they never come on time. If I was in SGU Id hire very attractive individuals to find crews...Im sure that would make it easier haha.



I have been reflowed once in about 5 years, however I can see if they have the capability to do so more readily then maybe it would become more of an occurrence.