Welcome aboard PulledBreaker. You'll find F9 a great place to work. First year pay sucks and labor relations are a bit strained right now, but you'll enjoy your day to day work. I know someone who runs a great place for training in DEN. Small, private rooms, and a paper tiger to play with. PM me if you're interested in the contact info.

Frontier generally starts training the first Monday of the month.

It's a matter of principle. Putting a trainining contract is simply low and wrong. You want people to stay here, pay them accordingly.

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No principle involved. It's gone on in the industry for decades.

Pay alone won't keep people ANYWHERE. SWA and DAL have people no showing to new hire classes. Due to pay?

The pay issue is a game. Always has been between pilots and management, always will be. The pay at F9 will change, not easily, but it will change.

This is the Frontier hiring thread.
Perhaps there should be a I hate my job at Fontier thread for whatever reason.
In the mean time I'll try and keep THIS thread positive for the folks busting their asses and grinding the grit required to get a job at F9.

Or you can inform people of the realities of working at F9. Making this place out to be Shangri-La, utopian, or even bearable at this point would be a horrible disservice to those with choices. The purpose of this hiring thread should be to give candidates a true picture of what's in store. And it will not be pretty for a while. Go elsewhere my friends, best advice I could give to anyone.

Who made it out to be a, "Shangri-La, utopian"?
You won't find one thread I've posted stating the pay is satisfactory.
In fact I said, stay prepared to strike.
The pay will change.

Emotions take over a lot of these posts.
The reality is you will be facing contract fights with management for the duration of your airline careers regardless of where you choose to call home. F9, DAL and even the mighty SWA are prepared to strike.

Some of you would cause yourselves a lot less stress by accepting the game for what it is or finding a new career.

7/14 hired today

Excellent. Good for them.

Well said. I completely agree. It amazes me the number of pilots we have with their heads in the sand.