Chicken my a$$. It's called at least having half a brain and looking back at history (Comair) and understanding simple economics. The only way we as a regional can pull off what you're suggesting is if the entire regional sector would band together and fight as one. But we don't have much of a chance when groups like Skywest do what they did. That's the reason the whipsaw exists

Past 5 months, 200 DTW:
Block/Credit/PerDiem
59/92/299
51/105/331
50/88/323
32/97/257
29/90/310

Look about 5 posts above yours, I already did one to correct for inflation.

If you use December 2016 (as the year no more increases existed) this is still more.

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It's not really about being chickensh!t.

Comair paved the way for this model when they went on strike. After that the whip saw began in force and all Regionals lost any power they may have had.

It's too easy to shift airplanes and flying to another regional.

Mainline pilots are the only ones that could ever stop this and they have no desire to stick their necks out for the JV team.

It's worth noting, while you MAY have voted no on the bankruptcy loa (only you know whether you did), you didn't quit in the bankruptcy so a no vote really didn't mean much.

If you want to call people chicken****, I guess you should have left when the bankruptcy loa passed.

If any one wants to volunteer for displacment on 17-05, you can now do that with the bid card update....

Except for 280 allowed to vote? Because there are loads of pilots who cannot vote that are way less than min credit each month...

Also, since 280 is at least 10% of the pilot group, at what % of the pilot group taking a pay cut does it become acceptable?

Why can't everyone get a pay raise?

No. Read the union email. It was ALL pilots, not pilots allowed to vote. The union has everyone's pay, and 280 are below 83 an hour average. They might be at 82 hours ot 77 hours, 1 pilot was at a 75 average. Your supposition about pilots per year being below 83 hours is incorrect. Do you have the pay numbers for the whole pilot group? The union does.

Why can't everyone get a raise? Everyone is getting a raise, and except for the super senior, its the same pay raise.

The retention bonuses are ending. The company is giving us those bonuses rolled into pay rates and more.

I get that for a variety of reasons about 10% of the group can't pick up enough times to get at 83 average, that will change as their seniority climbs, or it won't if they choose to drop or call in sick so often they can't be reinbursed their sick time.

100% of the pilot group will lose these bonuses. Some people here want us ALL to risk the bonuses ending and take giant cuts because they think it's funny to watch delta squirm or the company to fail. 90% of us do the same or better with rates vs retention, and 100% of us get a pay raise.

Maybe another pilot group will hold out for more or play chicken with Delta. This one, for the most part, want to end these bonuses early.

Sadly, there is no way for mainline pilots to stick up for us. The APA stuck their necks out in the early 90's, and ALPA bit it off. The NMB has sided with ALPA/Management, for the dual class pilot structure.

Last time I checked with them, nobody was in their database with a hire date after early April. So at 60 new pilots crediting min per month...