Trying to be optimistic. Could this be better if we revised the snap back metrics or reduced the time til renegotiation? Let’s assume we can’t get more money. What can we do to make it more restrictive and a more short term agreement for the company?


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Bottom 80 percent. Give me the furlough ( yeah internet tough guy here) it’s a hard NO for me. 12-2? Are you serious? Protect furloughs for 6 months and set yourself up for furloughs in the future. I’d like someone voting yes to chime in and point out what I’m clearly missing.

NO!! Period.

No from me. Gives too much, gets almost nothing in return.

And what I really want costs them NOTHING for the next couple years.

A member of the MEC/LEC told me recently that the MEC/LEC met BEFORE real negotiations started to decide what they would pursue in return for what the company asked for. The majority decided profit sharing wasn't a priority, wanted something "tangible".
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You can keep your one time 2% and give me permanent profit sharing language. Will cost them NOTHING for the next couple years.

This looks much better for JB than for JB pilots. They aren't just going to walk away from this, and if they do, we're out a whole 2% and keep our scope.

NO. Send it back for profit sharing and more limited scope relief, then we'll talk.

There are so many reasons to vote no to this, I don't see it passing. Is this a joke? The only good thing about this is it shows us the negotiating teams abilities before they wasted time on a new CBA. It's going to be a PITA recalling them and recasting the team but it will be worth it in the long run.

I don’t imagine there will be a TA2 if this is voted down, but I could be wrong. The company already got their limited scope relief from LOA 12. The relief they’re asking for now...no amount of profit sharing or 3% COLA would make it acceptable in my eyes.

With respect what we are about to give would require way more than profit sharing for me.


This is a major scope give and honestly not sure anything would make me vote yes to this language.

This need an entire rewrite!


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Hellll noooooooooo

Why would allowing RJ's hub-to-hub EVER be considered or included in this agreement?

Also, pilots can't prevent an airline merger, but if JB pilots allow these outsourcing provisions into the CBA with AA, and then JB+AA enter a merger agreement, I don't believe JB pilots have any scope leverage in joint CBA negotiations, as they would have already allowed outsourcing with AA regionals.

Exactly!


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