DAL Class drops
09-26-2019, 05:25 AM
#3361
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Originally Posted by WakeWash
I’ll make a bet that each new hire that chooses NYC320 over ATL88, or anything else for that matter, is gonna seriously regret it. With everyone holding out for the bus in every base, they will he stuck in NYC for a looonnnggg time. Maybe some can get LAX but after hearing how awful that category is I don’t know.
09-26-2019, 05:31 AM
#3362
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Originally Posted by Aviator147
What have you been hearing about LAX 320? Genuinely curious? Lots of short legs and red eyes?
09-26-2019, 06:09 AM
#3363
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Originally Posted by Big E 757
I haven’t looked, but from an LAX A320 FO I flew with last month, or late July, said they didn’t have a lot of trips yet, and the trips they did have, often began with a deadhead. I’d bet if you looked at the LAX 737 bid packet, and removed all the nice looking trips with trans cons and one leg a day type flying, it’ll look similar. I don’t think the base is fully “stood up” so it’s hard to tell.
09-26-2019, 06:17 AM
#3364
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Originally Posted by WakeWash
I’ll make a bet that each new hire that chooses NYC320 over ATL88, or anything else for that matter, is gonna seriously regret it. With everyone holding out for the bus in every base, they will he stuck in NYC for a looonnnggg time. Maybe some can get LAX but after hearing how awful that category is I don’t know.
09-26-2019, 06:33 AM
#3365
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LAX is one of the biggest origin/destination markets in the country. This means a lot of airplanes starting/finishing their day there. The cheapest crews to do these flights are LAX based because there are no hotel costs.
This means that a high percentage of LAX trips(on any domestic category) will have early shows and/or late releases.
LAX is also a prime place for redeyes. Redeyes are ideal trio starters in the optimizer’s view because, again, no hotels. Therefore, a lot of LAX trips will start with redeyes.
The takeaway here is that LAX is not an ideal commuter base because of the nature of the flying and RCC attempts to fundamentally alter LAX rotations are likely to be short lived because they are swimming against a powerful current.
I don’t see that changing in the near future so bid accordingly.
This means that a high percentage of LAX trips(on any domestic category) will have early shows and/or late releases.
LAX is also a prime place for redeyes. Redeyes are ideal trio starters in the optimizer’s view because, again, no hotels. Therefore, a lot of LAX trips will start with redeyes.
The takeaway here is that LAX is not an ideal commuter base because of the nature of the flying and RCC attempts to fundamentally alter LAX rotations are likely to be short lived because they are swimming against a powerful current.
I don’t see that changing in the near future so bid accordingly.
09-26-2019, 06:56 AM
#3366
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Question on Category freeze that I couldn't find the answer to in the PWA. If someone's category freeze ends 15 December, and an AE closes in November with the earliest conversion 1 December, is that person eligible to convert since its the same month? IOW, does the system look at the specific date or only the month?
09-26-2019, 07:01 AM
#3367
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Originally Posted by Mudhendrvr
Question on Category freeze that I couldn't find the answer to in the PWA. If someone's category freeze ends 15 December, and an AE closes in November with the earliest conversion 1 December, is that person eligible to convert since its the same month? IOW, does the system look at the specific date or only the month?
09-26-2019, 07:25 AM
#3369
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Originally Posted by FogSkier
LAX is one of the biggest origin/destination markets in the country. This means a lot of airplanes starting/finishing their day there. The cheapest crews to do these flights are LAX based because there are no hotel costs.
This means that a high percentage of LAX trips(on any domestic category) will have early shows and/or late releases.
LAX is also a prime place for redeyes. Redeyes are ideal trio starters in the optimizer’s view because, again, no hotels. Therefore, a lot of LAX trips will start with redeyes.
The takeaway here is that LAX is not an ideal commuter base because of the nature of the flying and RCC attempts to fundamentally alter LAX rotations are likely to be short lived because they are swimming against a powerful current.
I don’t see that changing in the near future so bid accordingly.
This means that a high percentage of LAX trips(on any domestic category) will have early shows and/or late releases.
LAX is also a prime place for redeyes. Redeyes are ideal trio starters in the optimizer’s view because, again, no hotels. Therefore, a lot of LAX trips will start with redeyes.
The takeaway here is that LAX is not an ideal commuter base because of the nature of the flying and RCC attempts to fundamentally alter LAX rotations are likely to be short lived because they are swimming against a powerful current.
I don’t see that changing in the near future so bid accordingly.
So the question is.....would we(you) rather have more jobs which include red eyes or less jobs sans red eyes?
09-26-2019, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
all very valid points. I would like to add one more .....time zones. There are virtually no red eyes going east to west......who wants to take off at 11pm for a 5:30hr flight and arrive in LA at 0130hrs? Now, how about take off from LA at 11pm for a 5:00 flt(winds) and arrive in NYC at 0700hrs? I venture to say.....much greater demand.
So the question is.....would we(you) rather have more jobs which include red eyes or less jobs sans red eyes?
So the question is.....would we(you) rather have more jobs which include red eyes or less jobs sans red eyes?
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