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Old 12-11-2014 | 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by flyingberk
Call me completely ignorant but I do not understand this. You're saying that the E175 pilots are not allowed to jumpseat on their own airline? When I used to fly for a 135 operator that was allowed to jumpseat on virtually everybody? Can someone explain this process to me?
There's no policy that bans 175 peeps from DAL jumpseat s, it's a computer glitch that DAL is just not in any hurry to fix. Standard regional abuse.
Old 12-11-2014 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
There's no policy that bans 175 peeps from DAL jumpseat s, it's a computer glitch that DAL is just not in any hurry to fix. Standard regional abuse.
Glitch would get fixed real quick if we denied the "recriprocal" jumpseat agreement to DAL pilots. SKYW pilots lack the will to stand up for themselves. DAL pilots are welcome in my jumpseat only, if they want to sit in the back they can buy an ID or find another ride.

"re·cip·ro·cal
rəˈsiprək(ə)l/

(of an agreement or obligation) bearing on or binding each of two parties equally.
"the treaty is a bilateral commitment with reciprocal rights and duties"
synonyms:mutual, common, shared, joint, corresponding, complementary "reciprocal obligations and duties"

They need us far more than we need them.
BTW, ran this by a CP and he said the jumpseat was under my discretionary control.
Old 12-11-2014 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom
Glitch would get fixed real quick if we denied the "recriprocal" jumpseat agreement to DAL pilots. SKYW pilots lack the will to stand up for themselves. DAL pilots are welcome in my jumpseat only, if they want to sit in the back they can buy an ID or find another ride.


They need us far more than we need them.
BTW, ran this by a CP and he said the jumpseat was under my discretionary control.
SkyWest should provide POS space until it gets fixed.
Old 12-11-2014 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by viper548
SkyWest should provide POS space until it gets fixed.
I don't think they're allowed to put guys on Delta positive space who are only supporting the United operation (175 guys).
Old 12-11-2014 | 08:39 AM
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Theres a work-around that makes it work for the 175 guys. You use your United N number when they ask you for your employee number, the company code stays SkyWest (OO) and you will then be listed as a regular jump seater. Somehow your N number is connected to CASS.
Old 12-11-2014 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by viper548
SkyWest should provide POS space until it gets fixed.
The only way it will get fixed is when DAL guys miss their commutes, causing cancellations/delays and sweat at their company. SKYW doesn't care. Been dealing with this for more than a few years.
Old 12-11-2014 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom
The only way it will get fixed is when DAL guys miss their commutes, causing cancellations/delays and sweat at their company. SKYW doesn't care. Been dealing with this for more than a few years.
Have fun with your little jumpseat war hoss. You'll bring DL to its knees. They clearly "need you more than you need them". Right.

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Old 12-11-2014 | 09:50 AM
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Ccb is right. Nothing will change until a few dal pilots are told they cannot ride on our e175. The problem is, a) who is going to be the one to deny a pilot the jump. Not me! B) delta pilots shouldn't have to miss work and suffer for something that isn't their fault. Sapa has been saying they are working on the issue but I don't have a whole lot of faith in it. It will get fixed everntually.
Old 12-11-2014 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Have fun with your little jumpseat war hoss. You'll bring DL to its knees. They clearly "need you more than you need them". Right.

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Why is he a tool for this? He's wrong on a bunch of other stuff but this deal with the delta jump seat is bs. And I am tired of it too. It's been too long and there is no movement at all on the issue.

We need to be proactive and clearly delta couldn't care less about it. What other recourse do we have?
Old 12-11-2014 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Canuck
Ccb is right. Nothing will change until a few dal pilots are told they cannot ride on our e175. The problem is, a) who is going to be the one to deny a pilot the jump. Not me! B) delta pilots shouldn't have to miss work and suffer for something that isn't their fault. Sapa has been saying they are working on the issue but I don't have a whole lot of faith in it. It will get fixed everntually.
SAPA has been gumming that monkey for more than 3 years. Before the E175, if you didn't purchase a DAL lottery ticket to go on vacation the seat in the back wasn't available, regardless of the actual jumpseat status. DAL ALPA knows this and since it doesn't affect them they don't care if a regional puke catches a ride. Gloop, it isn't a jumpseat war, its my version of a reciprocal jumpseat agreement, my terms are the same as the ones they are offering me. Faith in SAPA is a contest, fill your left hand with faith in SAPA and krap in the right, see which fills up first.
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