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Old 06-06-2022, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne View Post
what does that have to do with stagnant growth? (Which isn’t true)

I would be happy with what most think is fair. I still have 25 years to go and I don’t want the US Air/America West environment.
Maybe I should have been more clear. The stagnant remark was in the context of the JB/NK merger. So do you think JB has grown faster than NK or not. If so, you should prefer RS over DOH. If not you worked for a carrier that wasn't as successful growing as the other one. And maybe that should take some wind out of the DOH being the better metric.

I really don't know what is fair. But after being in the industry for 20 years, I ended up at NK. And after 9 years I am at 20% RS. Personally, I don't think that going to 38% RS based on DOH would be fair. And the reason I would be going down would be because JB didn't grow as much as NK. So to hear we should be grateful to join isn't awesome. I would prefer no merger. Yes, your pay rates are higher, but I would be an FO if I was at JB.

And I am way more antagonistic than 99% of the NK pilots, and actually, in person not that bad, but it is APC required to be a keyboard warrior.

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Old 06-06-2022, 09:10 PM
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Hi bud. Not sure if we need your input in EVERY single exchange here. Thanks
We? Sorry but speak for yourself. I welcome anyone in this PUBLIC forum.
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Old 06-06-2022, 09:13 PM
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We? Sorry but speak for yourself. I welcome anyone in this PUBLIC forum.
Uhm, I think that is what I just did? I spoke for myself?, So why don't you welcome me?
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Old 06-06-2022, 09:18 PM
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Uhm, I think that is what I just did? I spoke for myself?, So why don't you welcome me?
Check your message. "Not sure WE need your...."
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Old 06-06-2022, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by skigambia View Post
Check your message. "Not sure WE need your...."
You are right. Presumptuous. Having said that, a quick forum search will lead to a few of US expressing that sentiment. Didn't say ALL, pretty sure it's at least two, so WE. Thanks for playing.
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Old 06-07-2022, 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian View Post
Maybe I should have been more clear. The stagnant remark was in the context of the JB/NK merger. So do you think JB has grown faster than NK or not. If so, you should prefer RS over DOH. If not you worked for a carrier that wasn't as successful growing as the other one. And maybe that should take some wind out of the DOH being the better metric.

I really don't know what is fair. But after being in the industry for 20 years, I ended up at NK. And after 9 years I am at 20% RS. Personally, I don't think that going to 38% RS based on DOH would be fair. And the reason I would be going down would be because JB didn't grow as much as NK. So to hear we should be grateful to join isn't awesome. I would prefer no merger. Yes, your pay rates are higher, but I would be an FO if I was at JB.

And I am way more antagonistic than 99% of the NK pilots, and actually, in person not that bad, but it is APC required to be a keyboard warrior.

You wouldn’t be an FO.
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You wouldn’t be an FO.
Are you saying that they could hold a CA slot in MCO/LAX with 9 years seniority? They certainly wouldn't be 20%.
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Are you saying that they could hold a CA slot in MCO/LAX with 9 years seniority? They certainly wouldn't be 20%.
MCO under a combined company will look much different. My understanding is that it’s a pretty small base for JetBlue.
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Are you saying that they could hold a CA slot in MCO/LAX with 9 years seniority? They certainly wouldn't be 20%.
I suspect part of the SLI negotiation would be a no bump/no flush agreement, or base locks for a certain amount of years to protect seat/base locks for pilots. My hope would be not to lock bases and just keep the no bump/flush so that as slots become available, people can swap as their new seniority allows.
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