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Old 08-03-2015 | 03:53 AM
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FA's also have a no strike clause in their contract.
Old 08-03-2015 | 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by IWalkJun12
FA's also have a no strike clause in their contract.
Where did you hear this?
Old 08-03-2015 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by dn_wisconsin
I think they can only keep up with us because oil so is low. It's only a matter of time before it spikes again. Then we'll see if they are willing to lose money just to go head to head.
Way to keep labor costs low, congratulations! You are a shareholders dream! I'm happy when the higher paying airline gains market share, this obviously isn't the spirit pilot's rational. I guess that's what you get when you don't need an education to get hired there.
Old 08-03-2015 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Window_Seat
Way to keep labor costs low, congratulations! You are a shareholders dream! I'm happy when the higher paying airline gains market share, this obviously isn't the spirit pilot's rational. I guess that's what you get when you don't need an education to get hired there.
Get off our thread d*ckhead. Guess you need to be a complete douchebag to get hired on at Delta then, eh? Scumbag troll. By the way, looks like you only need 1,500 hours to go to Delta, little lacking in the experience required to fly an old aero plane, right?

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Old 08-03-2015 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Window_Seat
Way to keep labor costs low, congratulations! You are a shareholders dream! I'm happy when the higher paying airline gains market share, this obviously isn't the spirit pilot's rational. I guess that's what you get when you don't need an education to get hired there.
I'm not normally a spelling/grammar nazi - but if you're going to toss rocks about the level of someone's education, it seems to me that you better be damned sure your post is free of mistakes.

Just a thought.
Old 08-03-2015 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Rainbows
Get off our thread d*ckhead. Guess you need to be a complete douchebag to get hired on at Delta then, eh? Scumbag troll. By the way, looks like you only need 1,500 hours to go to Delta, little lacking in the experience required to fly an old aero plane, right?
1,500 hours for one group of applicants, there's no telling the flight time requirement for the rest.. I believe the Dbag requirement is more informal, but they do a solid job screening for this.
Old 08-03-2015 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Window_Seat
Way to keep labor costs low, congratulations! You are a shareholders dream! I'm happy when the higher paying airline gains market share, this obviously isn't the spirit pilot's rational. I guess that's what you get when you don't need an education to get hired there.
He never once mentioned labor costs as a direct correlation in the ability for majors to compete with us on ticket price. In your mud slinging you seem to forget the sacrifice 400 pilots of this company made in 2010 for the future of not only this pilot group but the collective bargaining at all ALPA carriers. When fuel costs decrease at the level we are seeing, it allows the majors to increase downward pressure on competition, or come up with hair-brained schemes to better compete (Delta base fare). Then, just like Song and Ted were over 10 years ago, the next time crisis hits they will be part of the record books.

The money will be there in our next contract. So will all the work rules we have fought to preserve, so we can actually have lives and interests outside of the cockpit. Ask one of us what the 4 days off are worth. Or line bidding. Or the transition. Or our healthcare options. There's plenty of work to be done in the next contract, but leave that fight to us.

What has your union's negotiating strategy done for you? Congratulations, you've voted down ONE TA in company history. Quite a bit of chest beating for the same pilots that gave up what they did to "save" the airline in bankruptcy. Way to help the company keep labor costs low!!

Do us all of favor and go back to your golf cart in peach tree city and continue to boast to all of your neighbors about how great being a Delta pilot is and how the MD88 is a "real airplane." Then gladly send me a PM the 1 time a year you get west of the Mississippi River and we can have a beer and I can prove to you in person, that I am more educated than you and plenty of your 1000 hour Delta wonder coworkers. Until then, kindly shove it
Old 08-03-2015 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by RalphWiggum
He never once mentioned labor costs as a direct correlation in the ability for majors to compete with us on ticket price. In your mud slinging you seem to forget the sacrifice 400 pilots of this company made in 2010 for the future of not only this pilot group but the collective bargaining at all ALPA carriers. When fuel costs decrease at the level we are seeing, it allows the majors to increase downward pressure on competition, or come up with hair-brained schemes to better compete (Delta base fare). Then, just like Song and Ted were over 10 years ago, the next time crisis hits they will be part of the record books.

The money will be there in our next contract. So will all the work rules we have fought to preserve, so we can actually have lives and interests outside of the cockpit. Ask one of us what the 4 days off are worth. Or line bidding. Or the transition. Or our healthcare options. There's plenty of work to be done in the next contract, but leave that fight to us.

What has your union's negotiating strategy done for you? Congratulations, you've voted down ONE TA in company history. Quite a bit of chest beating for the same pilots that gave up what they did to "save" the airline in bankruptcy. Way to help the company keep labor costs low!!

Do us all of favor and go back to your golf cart in peach tree city and continue to boast to all of your neighbors about how great being a Delta pilot is and how the MD88 is a "real airplane." Then gladly send me a PM the 1 time a year you get west of the Mississippi River and we can have a beer and I can prove to you in person, that I am more educated than you and plenty of your 1000 hour Delta wonder coworkers. Until then, kindly shove it
Nailed it! Well done, Sir! Absolutely brilliant.
Old 08-03-2015 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by RalphWiggum
He never once mentioned labor costs as a direct correlation in the ability for majors to compete with us on ticket price. In your mud slinging you seem to forget the sacrifice 400 pilots of this company made in 2010 for the future of not only this pilot group but the collective bargaining at all ALPA carriers. When fuel costs decrease at the level we are seeing, it allows the majors to increase downward pressure on competition, or come up with hair-brained schemes to better compete (Delta base fare). Then, just like Song and Ted were over 10 years ago, the next time crisis hits they will be part of the record books.

The money will be there in our next contract. So will all the work rules we have fought to preserve, so we can actually have lives and interests outside of the cockpit. Ask one of us what the 4 days off are worth. Or line bidding. Or the transition. Or our healthcare options. There's plenty of work to be done in the next contract, but leave that fight to us.

What has your union's negotiating strategy done for you? Congratulations, you've voted down ONE TA in company history. Quite a bit of chest beating for the same pilots that gave up what they did to "save" the airline in bankruptcy. Way to help the company keep labor costs low!!

Do us all of favor and go back to your golf cart in peach tree city and continue to boast to all of your neighbors about how great being a Delta pilot is and how the MD88 is a "real airplane." Then gladly send me a PM the 1 time a year you get west of the Mississippi River and we can have a beer and I can prove to you in person, that I am more educated than you and plenty of your 1000 hour Delta wonder coworkers. Until then, kindly shove it
Very nicely done. But, I think we're feeding this troll. Most delta pilots are douchebags, every time I commute on them, I get the same look down the nose and "you have your application in at Delta to get away from Spirit, right?" Um, no. Then I get the higher-class pilot snub.
Old 08-03-2015 | 01:26 PM
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"Don't you want to do something productive with your life????" SMH
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