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Old 08-24-2015 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Sailor
Is this an acceptable offer?
-JB at DOS plus whatever Ind Avg % .
-Up to 12% DC (no much more than what we have now)
-Retro pay (cheap SI bonus)
-Retain all rules.
-Improvements on LTD maybe STD as well.

Personally, I'm a NO.

This is just a talking from rumors. Nothing official.
Did you mean match or direct contribution? 12% DC would be much greater than we have now.
Old 08-24-2015 | 10:33 AM
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Let's not negotiate on the internet guys. Let's also keep in mind that jb is in negotiations too
Old 08-24-2015 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Left Handed
Did you mean match or direct contribution? 12% DC would be much greater than we have now.
DC, in any case still below industry.
Old 08-24-2015 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
Let's not negotiate on the internet guys.
I'm not, I'm not part of the Nc, I'm only one guy. If management wants to take my opinion and place it as an important part and use it as strategery then so be it. The jokes on them. This is a way for us to talk about contract issues in an anonymous way thank you very much. I don't see the endless hordes of delta pilots having any issues talking about their TA and contract demands all over this site. And I mean all over it.
Old 08-24-2015 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Sailor
DC, in any case still below industry.
Yes I think 15% would be the minimum standard.
Old 08-24-2015 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Sailor
Is this an acceptable offer?
-JB at DOS plus whatever Ind Avg % .
-Up to 12% DC (no much more than what we have now)
-Retro pay (cheap SI bonus)
-Retain all rules.
-Improvements on LTD maybe STD as well.

Personally, I'm a NO.

This is just a talking from rumors. Nothing official.
Just trying to clarify, what do you mean by Jetblue plus "whatever ind avg %?"
Old 08-24-2015 | 11:05 AM
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So our goal is to be average. That's all you need to say. Get a notary and some pens, we're ready to sign this puppy.
Old 08-24-2015 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
So our goal is to be average. That's all you need to say. Get a notary and some pens, we're ready to sign this puppy.
I think being average amongst the Big Four narrow bodies isn't a bad place to be. Average amongst JetBlue, Virgina America, Allegiant and Frontier is.
Old 08-24-2015 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Sailor
DC, in any case still below industry.
Maybe I misread your post, but you said "12%DC, which is not much better than what we have now". We don't have any DC, it's just a match. To get DC, would be much better in my opinion. I do agree 12% is a little low. I also agree with Putzin. Probably pass 70/30.
Old 08-24-2015 | 02:15 PM
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I hope you guys are wrong, I think the training agreement, the rejection of the Delta TA, the fight at Southwest and the threat from Republic to declare chapter 11 will embolden a lot of pilots here. I hope I'm not proven wrong.
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