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Old 08-29-2015 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Metal Slug
A Spirit executive attempts to catch the last banana to Ft. Lauderdale, after attending Friday's MEC meeting in Chicago.



LOL! That's pretty funny. Now, for those of us,who weren't able to attend the meeting, any special nuggets of info anyone can pass along?
Old 08-29-2015 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Rainbows
LOL! That's pretty funny. Now, for those of us,who weren't able to attend the meeting, any special nuggets of info anyone can pass along?
I dont have any info, but does anyone know if it's true that there is some new hire monkey working in ops for free, for the last few months, trying to work his way into a sim instructor postion?
Old 08-29-2015 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by putzin
I dont have any info, but does anyone know if it's true that there is some new hire monkey working in ops for free, for the last few months, trying to work his way into a sim instructor postion?

Probably true. Same kind of people hang out with the losers that volunteer to help out at job fairs on their days off. This stuff has to stop. I love their excuses, "oh I'm just trying to get my buddies a job here". Sweet. Will they work for free like you? Can't wait to meet them. One of the freebie workers grabs JRMs via ACARS too.
Old 08-29-2015 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Tine
Probably true. Same kind of people hang out with the losers that volunteer to help out at job fairs on their days off. This stuff has to stop. I love their excuses, "oh I'm just trying to get my buddies a job here". Sweet. Will they work for free like you? Can't wait to meet them. One of the freebie workers grabs JRMs via ACARS too.
Working for free in ops has to stop, thats just plain ridiculousness and against the contract, but I don't have a problem with guys volunteering to do the job fair. It's probably a good idea that the pilots have representation and influence in the hiring process.
Old 08-30-2015 | 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by tx4012
What does the average line look like at Spirit, particularly in the DFW base? Are they real heavy on 4-day trips or are there a lot of day trips and 2-days available as well? Are the junior lineholders averaging 15+ days off too or does it take a lot more seniority for that?

Also, for someone potentially being hired at Spirit right now, is 5-6 years a fairly safe guess at the earliest possible upgrade time?

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Although there are no trips that are longer than 4 days, reserve is in blocks of 6 days or 5 days (for the reserve periods that start later in the day).

There are a few lines that are built with a single 4-day trip on followed by 4 or 5 days off then another single 4-day trip, with days off after, but that is not the norm for DFW. Rather a typical line is a 2-day followed by a 4-day then 4 or 5 days off, then a 4-day followed by a redeye, then 4 or 5 days off, then a day turn, a 4-day finishing the week by another day turn.

Even if you are lineholder, if you commute you are looking at getting hotels for the overnight in base. Trips used to be non-commutable on both ends (early shows, late finishes), though recently (within the past month or two) trips are commutable at one end either the beginning or the end.

Reserves used to be pretty easy at least on the FO side, as you tended not to be used when I first started (2014), but once the union started enforcing the no-OT pick up within 48hrs at the beginning of this year, reserves are flying more often.
Old 08-30-2015 | 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by bruhaha
Although there are no trips that are longer than 4 days, reserve is in blocks of 6 days or 5 days (for the reserve periods that start later in the day).

There are a few lines that are built with a single 4-day trip on followed by 4 or 5 days off then another single 4-day trip, with days off after, but that is not the norm for DFW. Rather a typical line is a 2-day followed by a 4-day then 4 or 5 days off, then a 4-day followed by a redeye, then 4 or 5 days off, then a day turn, a 4-day finishing the week by another day turn.

Even if you are lineholder, if you commute you are looking at getting hotels for the overnight in base. Trips used to be non-commutable on both ends (early shows, late finishes), though recently (within the past month or two) trips are commutable at one end either the beginning or the end.

Reserves used to be pretty easy at least on the FO side, as you tended not to be used when I first started (2014), but once the union started enforcing the no-OT pick up within 48hrs at the beginning of this year, reserves are flying more often.
Very helpful, thank you. Are you still looking at about 75 hours credit for that or are the lines with fewer days off also pushing higher credit totals?
Old 08-30-2015 | 11:44 AM
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with no announcement of what the pilot group compensation would be for voluteering and going the extra mile during the last major irop, it will be interesting to see what happens this Labor Day weekend.
Old 08-30-2015 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by tx4012
Very helpful, thank you. Are you still looking at about 75 hours credit for that or are the lines with fewer days off also pushing higher credit totals?
Most DFWs lines are around high-70's to low to mid 80's in terms of credit between 14-16 days off.

I personally think reserve days on a relief line is a better deal - you get 15 days off somewhere, and if you are assigned to fly more than 4 hours a day during a trip assigned to you while on a reserve call-out, the time above 4 hours goes on top of the 72 hr guarantee. and you can still trade, drop and pick up from open time.

About half the trips have soft credit due to duty/trip rigs. so you're usually blocking less that what you're crediting on those trips.
Old 08-30-2015 | 03:54 PM
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In case this contract gets dragged out too long...

A320 Captains - Chengdu Airlines
3 year contract: $1 million


($26k/month X 36 plus $36K completion bonus etc)
Old 08-30-2015 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by willflyforcash
In case this contract gets dragged out too long...



A320 Captains - Chengdu Airlines

3 year contract: $1 million





($26k/month X 36 plus $36K completion bonus etc)

Hawt diggity
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