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Old 11-05-2019 | 06:36 AM
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Perhaps it's time for informational picketing and flying the contract. Turn the pressure up a little. We can't sit around and wait while Kirby holds our contract hostage for more outsourcing.
Don’t we always fly the contact?
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Old 11-05-2019 | 07:01 AM
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Don’t we always fly the contact?
Not everyone. Those that are perfectly happy with this contract are the ones waiving and bending over backward for things like "blitz days" while saying they can wait this out forever.
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Old 11-05-2019 | 07:14 AM
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Everyone fly safe out there.
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Old 11-05-2019 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by evodiver
Perhaps it's time for informational picketing and flying the contract. Turn the pressure up a little. We can't sit around and wait while Kirby holds our contract hostage for more outsourcing.
Picking up extra trips, double dipping, and extending a CCO are all examples flying the contract, just not the parts that some may like. Kind of a tricky spot. The union can’t even suggest that we stop these things without being released into self help, and if we do it on our own we could harm those at the table trying to get a better contract. We’re really not that far into this deal considering that the norm is 2+ years of playing the game before a TA is released.
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Old 11-05-2019 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by evodiver
Not everyone. Those that are perfectly happy with this contract are the ones waiving and bending over backward for things like "blitz days" while saying they can wait this out forever.
Let the Union do its job, they are negotiating with our company and have privileged confidential financial information on our current ops and future growth plans. Trying to F ops now will only backfire and cause harm to our cause. ALPA ran its mouth saying no changes to scope and backed themselves into this corner, they may well decide it would be to OUR advantage to make SOME changes to our scope clause. Continue to do your job well and when a TA comes out, read it and educate yourself instead of listening to the chest thumpers on here.
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Old 11-05-2019 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by evodiver
Not everyone. Those that are perfectly happy with this contract are the ones waiving and bending over backward for things like "blitz days" while saying they can wait this out forever.
No one asked me about the "Blitz."

I find it comical. I do my job the same way every day. No different. Some times we are on time, sometimes not. The on time statistics do not start with me, but it does end with us....pilots.

1. Ramps inability to get the bags/cargo on.
2. Constantly waiting--required to wait for final Haz mat on ACARS before pushing.
3. Inability for ramp to deliver a plane on time to the gate from MX base
4. Don't even get me started on cabin cleaners.
5. Can't board without catering complete.
6. Gate agents inability to check bags on a full 777 and then amazed we leave late.
7. Can't board when short of flight attendants--because their connection is late. The best is when they are on the ramp waiting for your gate!
8. No or late MRD.
9. Water and lav service. Really?
10. But my favorite lately, Can't find the copilot because they are at the wrong place for a domestic departure in SFO. Larry and his annex antics....

ON and on...
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Old 11-05-2019 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by N6279P
Don’t we always fly the contact?
There are 130 occurrences of "waive" in the UPA, most applying to pilot actions. Without any influence from anyone, the less satisfied the pilot group is the less they waive.
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Old 11-05-2019 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by evodiver
Not everyone. Those that are perfectly happy with this contract are the ones waiving and bending over backward for things like "blitz days" while saying they can wait this out forever.
What part of doing your best job everyday is not “flying the contract”?
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Old 11-05-2019 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by APC225
There are 130 occurrences of "waive" in the UPA, most applying to pilot actions. Without any influence from anyone, the less satisfied the pilot group is the less they waive.
Are any of us getting a raise in January?
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Old 11-05-2019 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald
No one asked me about the "Blitz."

I find it comical. I do my job the same way every day. No different. Some times we are on time, sometimes not. The on time statistics do not start with me, but it does end with us....pilots.
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10. But my favorite lately, Can't find the copilot because they are at the wrong place for a domestic departure in SFO. Larry and his annex antics....

ON and on...
Dave do tell! What’s Larry-Boy (Vegitale superhero) up to now?
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