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Old 11-03-2019 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by JoePatroni
It's not "relaxing" it's "mitigating." It's amazing how the tune has changed in less than a year.
I guess it’s better optics when you word it like that.
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Old 11-03-2019 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by grappler72
I guess it’s better optics when you word it like that.
Or someone realized they won’t be keeping a promise.
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Old 11-03-2019 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
Of the 5700+ max orders, approx 80 are for the Max-7 (30 of the 80 are for SWA)...its the least ordered of the 4 variants.

Worlds largest max fleet is scheduled to be Lion Air with order for 400+
I was kidding about the max7. Having the most wouldn’t exactly give one bragging rights in the eye of the public
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Old 11-03-2019 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Itsajob
I was kidding about the max7. Having the most wouldn’t exactly give one bragging rights in the eye of the public
Unless your tickets are cheaper than anyone else, Valujet proved that.
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Old 11-04-2019 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
Shack. We better see DAL work rules at a minimum. And LTD. And WB manning, and life insurance. And. And....

They have more 70+ seaters than us but far, far fewer total RJ’s to boot.
How many WBs does DAL have?

How many do we have?

Which work rules do you want?

I agree our LTD cap is outdated.

Would you trade say half our WB fleet just to have a double CA FO crew? Of course the rest of the WB flying would go to? And who does DALs WB flying? Is less 70 seaters worth less WBs.

Would you give up say mandated augmentation based on the block hours for either outbound or inbound leg?......would you......insert whatever else you want here.

Honest questions and hoping for an answer.

Lee
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Old 11-04-2019 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Ni hao
Rumor is he offered a 10% raise @ signing + 3/4/3/4 4 year deal. Pensions back. No furlough clause. Hiring 1000 a year for 10 years. Improvements in sick time, LTD better then Delta. However he wants scope. So forget it
Oh man, and here I thought there was no catch.
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Old 11-04-2019 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by LeeFXDWG
How many WBs does DAL have?

How many do we have?

Which work rules do you want?

I agree our LTD cap is outdated.

Would you trade say half our WB fleet just to have a double CA FO crew? Of course the rest of the WB flying would go to? And who does DALs WB flying? Is less 70 seaters worth less WBs.

Would you give up say mandated augmentation based on the block hours for either outbound or inbound leg?......would you......insert whatever else you want here.

Honest questions and hoping for an answer.

Lee

No I would not! Thanks Lee for pointing out the deficiencies of the “Delta CBA”
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Old 11-04-2019 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by LeeFXDWG
How many WBs does DAL have?

How many do we have?

Which work rules do you want?

I agree our LTD cap is outdated.

Would you trade say half our WB fleet just to have a double CA FO crew? Of course the rest of the WB flying would go to? And who does DALs WB flying? Is less 70 seaters worth less WBs.

Would you give up say mandated augmentation based on the block hours for either outbound or inbound leg?......would you......insert whatever else you want here.

Honest questions and hoping for an answer.

Lee
Hey Lee. The “is less 70 seaters worth less wide bodies” comment caught my eye. I think this is the false narrative that the MEC is using to try soften some of us up for scope relief. Hope I’m wrong, but those types of comments are the reasons people say that rj scope could possibly be on the table. Jmo.
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Old 11-04-2019 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Ni hao
Rumor is he offered a 10% raise @ signing + 3/4/3/4 4 year deal. Pensions back. No furlough clause. Hiring 1000 a year for 10 years. Improvements in sick time, LTD better then Delta. However he wants scope. So forget it
No way!!! Not even a 25% DOS with a four year term and 10/8/5/5. Pensions back (because they can be taken away again), LTD better than Delta.

NOPE ON SCOPE!!!
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Old 11-04-2019 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Guppydriver95
Hey Lee. The “is less 70 seaters worth less wide bodies” comment caught my eye. I think this is the false narrative that the MEC is using to try soften some of us up for scope relief. Hope I’m wrong, but those types of comments are the reasons people say that rj scope could possibly be on the table. Jmo.
We all know that scope is more than just rj’s. The purpose is to protect and enhance United jobs. If they came up with something that enhanced the purpose of scope, that would be a change and some would be spring loaded to vote no without even reading. Since it would be hard to get the company to sign off on strengthening scope, I think that people are getting worked up over nothing. Perhaps they want us to be able to consider more than just one option, providing that it’s a better option. We won’t know until they release a TA, but those at the table know that they will be tarred and feathered if they relax scope.
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