Profit sharing for 2019
11-04-2019, 01:22 PM
#71
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Originally Posted by Sniper66
13500 votes
I trust majority of the pilots to vote no to scope relief
2174 furlough know better. ( twice most I may add)
4000 new comers know better ( mostly lost decade RJ drivers)
2650 FOs for 22 years without a sign of upgrading making 94 dollars per hour , know better
Not a chance a scope relief will pass and both company and union should know that by now...
I trust majority of the pilots to vote no to scope relief
2174 furlough know better. ( twice most I may add)
4000 new comers know better ( mostly lost decade RJ drivers)
2650 FOs for 22 years without a sign of upgrading making 94 dollars per hour , know better
Not a chance a scope relief will pass and both company and union should know that by now...
11-04-2019, 06:04 PM
#73
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Originally Posted by Grumble
Most recent contract comparison. 504x50 seat RJs... ridiculous.
https://www.alpa.org/ual/-/media/UAL...ison-guide.pdf
https://www.alpa.org/ual/-/media/UAL...ison-guide.pdf
Either way, nothing will change anytime soon. The company wants more rj’s without having to buy a new fleet type. We want scope protection and much of what Delta has without having to give anything up. I’m not expecting a TA for a while.
11-04-2019, 06:09 PM
#74
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Originally Posted by Itsajob
I keep telling myself that those things are old, people hate them, and they will be gone soon enough. It’s not worth burning negotiating capital over. Then again, that’s the same story that we were told about the 767-300. They’ll be gone quickly, let’s focus on other stuff. We goofed not putting a cap on total number of rj’s while requiring caps on 70/76 seaters.
11-04-2019, 06:19 PM
#75
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Originally Posted by Grumble
They’re so gross inside, it’s embarrassing that it has United painted on the side. At least an equally urine soaked Grey Hound bus doesn’t make you stand in the rain waiting for your bag. The 145’s are tolerable, the CRJs aren’t even worthy of being turned into beer cans.
11-05-2019, 04:42 AM
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After 40 years in this industry, my belief if this; this summer we will be no closer to a contract.
This airline board, including Oscar, are the ones who appointed Smisek. They also (largely) could not, would not, believe our nation’s economy would be doing so well under big orange hair. We parked too many airframes too soon, and held off on picking up others as they came on the market. Or fleet plan suffered and revenue suffered, as well as the IAH and ORD terminal capacities.
The “deplorable” are thriving, the country now leads in petroleum production, jet fuel down, seats full.
The board is still in denial and is now playing catch up-sorta, but still in waffling about the U.S. economy.”It just cannot continue”, and WHEN the president is impeached the gravy train will stop. So.... no contract. Too many in ALPA leadership are willing to believe it, so they don’t push harder for a contract now.
I won’t say, and it doesn’t matter how I know these things, and with only a few months left- it doesn’t affect me anyway. I do care about my younger friends and hate to see it.
This airline board, including Oscar, are the ones who appointed Smisek. They also (largely) could not, would not, believe our nation’s economy would be doing so well under big orange hair. We parked too many airframes too soon, and held off on picking up others as they came on the market. Or fleet plan suffered and revenue suffered, as well as the IAH and ORD terminal capacities.
The “deplorable” are thriving, the country now leads in petroleum production, jet fuel down, seats full.
The board is still in denial and is now playing catch up-sorta, but still in waffling about the U.S. economy.”It just cannot continue”, and WHEN the president is impeached the gravy train will stop. So.... no contract. Too many in ALPA leadership are willing to believe it, so they don’t push harder for a contract now.
I won’t say, and it doesn’t matter how I know these things, and with only a few months left- it doesn’t affect me anyway. I do care about my younger friends and hate to see it.
Last edited by BMEP100; 11-05-2019 at 05:17 AM. Reason: Grammar
11-05-2019, 04:51 AM
#77
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Originally Posted by BMEP100
Too many in ALPA leadership are willing to believe it, so they don’t push harder for a contract now.
11-05-2019, 05:02 AM
#78
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Originally Posted by BMEP100
After 40 years in this industry, my belief if this; this summer we will be no closer to a contract.
This airline board, including Oscar, are the ones who appointed Smisek. They also (largely) could not, would not, believe our nation’s economy would be doing so well under big orange hair. We parked too many airframes too soon, and held off on picking up others as they came on the market. Or fleet plan suffered and revenue suffered, as well as the IAH and ORD terminal capacities.
The deplorable are thriving, the country now leads in petroleum production, jet fuel down, seats full.
The board is still in denial and is now playing catch up-sorta, but still in waffling about the U.S. economy.”It just cannot continue”, and WHEN the president is impeached the gravy train will stop. So.... no contract. Too many in ALPA leadership are willing to believe it, so they don’t push harder for a contract now.
I won’t say, and it doesn’t matter how I know these things, and with only a few months left- it doesn’t affect me anyway. I do care about my younger friends and hate to see it.
This airline board, including Oscar, are the ones who appointed Smisek. They also (largely) could not, would not, believe our nation’s economy would be doing so well under big orange hair. We parked too many airframes too soon, and held off on picking up others as they came on the market. Or fleet plan suffered and revenue suffered, as well as the IAH and ORD terminal capacities.
The deplorable are thriving, the country now leads in petroleum production, jet fuel down, seats full.
The board is still in denial and is now playing catch up-sorta, but still in waffling about the U.S. economy.”It just cannot continue”, and WHEN the president is impeached the gravy train will stop. So.... no contract. Too many in ALPA leadership are willing to believe it, so they don’t push harder for a contract now.
I won’t say, and it doesn’t matter how I know these things, and with only a few months left- it doesn’t affect me anyway. I do care about my younger friends and hate to see it.
11-05-2019, 06:21 AM
#79
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Originally Posted by Itsajob
How do we push harder for a contract without giving up some of what is important to us? We could have a contract now if we gave scope concessions, but that would be throwing the baby out with the bath water. Everyone is making good money. Neither side is in a rush. We see no reason to give up anything, they see no reason to pay more for the status quo, so we wait.
11-05-2019, 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by evodiver
Perhaps it's time for informational picketing and flying the contract. Turn the pressure up a little. We can't sit around and wait while Kirby holds our contract hostage for more outsourcing.
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