Haven't even started yet honestly. This TDY set me back, but I have learned I can get basically all training for free with the post 9/11 GI Bill through Liberty and a degree to boot. I know it’s not the fastest way or the recommended way if paying out of pocket, but getting all ratings for basically 0 dollars is huge for me. On top of that I have all the required classes needed for the degree outside of the aviation portion, so hopefully that will knock some time off the projected finish time they have on their site.

 

Well I assume you'll be calling me a troll, but from what I've gathered through "non-forum" means; your negotiations are going poorly (though that can be expected from ATSG eg. ABX - trying to take away the home/gateway basing benefit?), hiring is generally for attrition/expected attrition with a lot of guys getting calls from LCCs/Majors/Brown (good for them), and ATSG is interested in possibly placing the coming A330s with Omni as PAX airplanes before they get holes cut in them (interesting proposal since that is a good fit between the 767 and 777 in terms of capability). Would that be added frames or replacements for the 76/77?.

All second/third hand info so if one of the "non-easily offended" Omni folks can chime in that might validate some of this?

Curious to see how much it actually pans out or is brought up at the earnings call. The main driver of my interest in Omni specifically has been whether 777Fs will be making their way to the certificate, and for whatever reason ATSG (or Omni management?) has intentionally chosen to pass by that money printer for the better part of three years, while airlines like K4 and Swift (and even Eastern 3.1; which somehow has more lives than the original Eastern - even when all they do is misfire) have grown nearly on a y=x^2 curve, with their customer base being much more diversified than ATSGs (at least at first glance).

 

Sounds like a good starting point.

 

Omni has never been run like other ACMI's.... ever. If you've done your research as you claim, you'd know that. Yes, You're trolling.

 

You're describing Kalitta before the current contract - they grew, partially to support the newly added expenditures related to the workforce. Omni chose not to - and theoretically may not be in a position to generate the revenue needed to remain competitive on pilot compensation, while simultaneously having too much of an outlay compared to the actual bottom feeders. One thing that is obvious is that you're a snowflake who thinks that Omni is the greatest thing since sliced bread and don't like critical questions being asked. Apparent since you totally ignored the other items I had identified as having come thru the grapevine.

 

Omni carries pax. Has this escaped your vast critical thinking skills?

 

Swift and Eastern do also, as does Atlas. Omni is/was free to have joined the cargo cult, it did not. So was that a conscious decision on the part of Omni - or is that by decree from the parent company (ties into the A330 rumor as well)?

Insofar as I can tell it seems that Omni is on a similar trajectory to National's (as far as fleet count and market engagement) rather than the trajectory of others like Atlas* and Kalitta - which would indicate stagnant wages and flying, though no risk of anything like BK or liquidation (unless ATSG goes full Lorenzo, which I wouldn't put past them).

*I'm not sure how Atlas pay compares to current Omni pay since their new contract doesn't seem to have been updated to APC, but I imagine it's at least on par - to wit, is there any apparent indication that ATSG may be planning similar legal maneuvers to Atlas' against their union?

 

You are embarrassing yourself.

 

Oh well then, maybe something will come out in the earnings call. Seems like the die-hards can't handle a bit of reality (or even consider some of the things being said around the rumor mill - and instead just stonewall) for whatever reason? Let me guess, most of you guys are lifers and the rest are getting out? Peace, seems like you deserve each other.

 

see, it’s obvious you don’t understand the completely different business models, haven’t done any real research and are just trolling.