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Old 06-06-2023 | 10:13 AM
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AL went to Mesa?!!!
Yess! Just hope SH, formerly with Eastern isn't coming in. That would be disastrous as he is the grim reaper and tanks airlines most everywhere he goes. (North American and World)
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Old 06-06-2023 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Cujo665
yeah, saw that today.
I wonder if this was a voluntary decision or if he was “encouraged” to leave….
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Old 06-06-2023 | 10:45 AM
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I heard "encouraged."
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Old 06-07-2023 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by LNL76
I heard "encouraged."

Was not a popular guy, no tears being shed, enjoy Mesa more your speed!
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Old 06-07-2023 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Guard
Was not a popular guy, no tears being shed, enjoy Mesa more your speed!
Yes, no tears being shed from the FA side! I don't think that's the end of changes either..
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Old 06-07-2023 | 03:31 PM
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Omni managed by ATSG. The slow boat to bankruptcy.
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Old 06-08-2023 | 07:38 AM
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AL moving on is a huge plus for Omni. Need DR to do the same.
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Old 06-09-2023 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Buster1
AL moving on is a huge plus for Omni. Need DR to do the same.
Wholeheartedly agree; but he’s a planted seed from ATSG..
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Old 06-09-2023 | 08:41 PM
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From what I have seen lately it doesn't look like anyone is running airline. All of top management could quit and no one would ever know it

The CP and office staff have to clean up there mess on a daily basis. Not to mention the completely insane decision to send the new hire pilots home.

Not sure this is the place to be anymore
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Old 06-10-2023 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by nearly65
From what I have seen lately it doesn't look like anyone is running airline. All of top management could quit and no one would ever know it
The CP and office staff have to clean up there mess on a daily basis. Not to mention the completely insane decision to send the new hire pilots home.
Not sure this is the place to be anymore
You know things aren't great when guys who intended to make a career here, are looking around, in at least one case so far, a CA here left for a regional street captain job based at his home with a $100k bonus to boot.

Even frontier is throwing a $50k bonus. If guys live in one of these bases, the LCC's and even some of the regionals are real jobs these days. Legacies are hiring Omni guys almost as fast as they apply. If Omni wants to maintain staffing (and this goes for ATI & ABX too) then ATSG needs to tell Ford & Harrison to knock off the BS and get it done.

Omni used to be the best kept secret in 121. Was the highest first year pay in the entire industry, that's gone. It was worth the slightly lower pay and slightly worse work rules to have such a stress free lifestyle. Well, the slightly lower pay and work rules are turning into significantly lower pay, even lower than regionals. Even our work rules are falling way behind. That all ain't good.

It's still a good job, but for military, corporate, regional and lower tier LCC guys, there's no reason to come here anymore unless they specifically want to fly troops globally. They'll just go straight to the legacy or upper tier LCC of their choice. Even other ACMI's have monumentally better contracts thee days. Hourly rates don't tell the whole stories. New hire FO's at Atlas were making $27k per month during Covid with all the soft money over rides.... ours were at $128ph x 64 = $8,192 per month. So, rates aren't everything guys, it's the work rules and soft money in ACMI that makes huge differences. Even after Covid, their soft money and over rides still bring their pilots in well above ours.

Yeah, we're compensated well compared to other careers, but we aren't compensated industry average incomes anymore for airline pilot careers. Amerijet, of all places, just beat us in total income. That needs to change, or we'll become what the regionals used to be; The training program for somebody else.
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