Not once have I said he should not get paid for declining the exemption. In fact I said he absolutely should get paid if he gave the company reasonable notice he would not accept a extension. I don’t know the OP’s actual situation but here is a hypothetical one.

Pilot gets within 30 days of recency expiring and fills out form but makes no mention he will not accept a extension. Recency expires just before pilot has a trip or trips. Company extends him. Day before trip pilot says “oh by the way”. I will not accept a legal extension which forces a trip drop or drops. If pilot has now carefully placed his next round of training available days he might well get most of the month off. The company is going to push back in this type of situation

 

Where is the template showing that we won’t accept an extension? Or where is the language that we are supposed to notify the company that we won’t accept an extension?

From what I have read our requirement is to fill out a template for sim times when we get a pop up.

If the company or individuals want to threaten pilots with no pay that will be addressed.

 

Communication is a 2 way street. You expect the pilot to give advance notice to the company that they will not accept the extension. Yet the company , to the best of my knowledge, has not notified any pilots when extending their recency. How much notice should we give the company? Why doesn’t the company contact the pilots who are running out of recency and ask them if they are comfortable extending. It’s not an unreasonable request.

 

If you have not heard the company is extending recency your living under a rock. I expected to be extended and logged on to check. Besides if the company does not extend you it’s a win for the pilot! If they do extend you it’s to fly the schedule you bid. Trust me, I use the contract in my favor every chance I get. If I were going to refuse a legal extension which I think the pilot should have a right to do even though it’s not supported contractually I am going to give the company notice in advance.

 

These are unprecedented times. Personally, I find it suspect we have a minimum for safety and then move the goal posts when we really really really need it. Goal posts should have been that far back to begin with if that was the case. Is it that crazy that the company should get our opinion on our abilities before they send us off to potentially endanger people? I mean, safety first, right?

 

As I stated I think a pilot should be able to refuse a extension. He should however give notice so the company can get him in the sim if they choose. Would you consider it ok to simply no show the trip and demand to be paid? Is one hour enough notice?

 

I hope the FAA never permanently changes the landing currency rules. But with medicals, every 9 months (vs. 6) would be nice.

 

Not a comment on pay, but I agree with Jaww 100% on the moving goalposts comment. Either 3 takeoffs & landings every 90 days are the minimum to be able to safely carry passengers or they’re not. This pandemic hasn’t given pilots super-proficient flying powers. I can’t believe the FAA bought off on this extension. The airlines are not at war and this isn’t a mission that must happen at any cost. I’d be shocked if Flight Operations doesn’t already have their request to get this extension changed permanently. Why not? If it’s safe to do it with passengers now, surely it’s safe all the time. Safety first, FAA & Airlines for America, right? I’d have liked to see ALPA coming out totally against this extension, but I never heard a peep. Perhaps I missed their Call to Action on that one. Now we deal with possible extension pushing.

 

If an extension is optional, then it should be assumed I’m not taking it. The company failed by not reaching out and making the same unsafe assumptions they once did with FDP extensions.

 

Im not totally sure about this. The FAA offered 60 day extensions and the company only took 30.

At the same time, the implementation has been terrible. It’s been handled like all delta things, you are auto extended until you say otherwise. How you say you are not extending and who to tell has been a mystery. Now, there are only about 4 offices we deal with so calling pilot assist would like you get in the right direction. Same as the VEOP rollout. Slow and inaccurate information causing confusion and rumors to take over. Add in some mistrust from past wrongs and it’s a recipe for the sh!t show we are now seeing.