Reserve for Dummies
12-18-2023 | 03:00 PM
#1521
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Just to clarify, you do not enter rest at the end of short call. You immediately revert back to LC. The only time you enter rest is prior to the report of a trip or short call or as assigned by scheduling. They should have given that trip as a SC assignment but the schedulers may not have been experienced enough to know they can take you off an assignment for the next day to give you a trip today. I don't know that you'd be given anything for the GS but if you do, assignment pay only? The only time you can be given a GS while on call is if it would interrupt x days or if the trip is between 10-18 hours on LC.
*Edit: okay, I see you said they gave you rest at the end of SC for the assignment the next day
*Edit: okay, I see you said they gave you rest at the end of SC for the assignment the next day
Scheduling said I didn’t show up on the SC list as eligible for the new trip because of the previously assigned trip. So they removed the next day trip, reran coverage for the current trip (the one from ARCOS) and awarded it as a SC assignment. So I expect to get paid nothing.
Just trying to figure out if everything is kosher. I expect it is. At the end of the day, this trip is better so it worked out.
12-24-2023 | 01:07 PM
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If they preemptively put you on rest to give you 30hrs off and that changes your days of availability are you considered in the new bucket or the old bucket (as long as you are legal for both)
i.e. you have a stretch of 9 days of LC and on day 1 they call and give you rest on day 4 for 30hrs. Are you now in the 3 day bucket or should you still be considered in the 5 day bucket?
i.e. you have a stretch of 9 days of LC and on day 1 they call and give you rest on day 4 for 30hrs. Are you now in the 3 day bucket or should you still be considered in the 5 day bucket?
12-24-2023 | 03:44 PM
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If they preemptively put you on rest to give you 30hrs off and that changes your days of availability are you considered in the new bucket or the old bucket (as long as you are legal for both)
i.e. you have a stretch of 9 days of LC and on day 1 they call and give you rest on day 4 for 30hrs. Are you now in the 3 day bucket or should you still be considered in the 5 day bucket?
i.e. you have a stretch of 9 days of LC and on day 1 they call and give you rest on day 4 for 30hrs. Are you now in the 3 day bucket or should you still be considered in the 5 day bucket?
You can’t be given a 5 day trip after that 30-hour rest if that’s what you are asking.
12-25-2023 | 09:34 AM
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It’s the days remaining at the point at which you would report. So, depending on the time of day we are talking about getting off 30 hour rest, after rest either the 3 or 4 days bucket.
You can’t be given a 5 day trip after that 30-hour rest if that’s what you are asking.
You can’t be given a 5 day trip after that 30-hour rest if that’s what you are asking.
Seems kind of shady if that's the case and you could be given a trip that should have gone to a different guy.
12-25-2023 | 11:51 AM
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I'm talking about before the rest. Basically your schedule would go from 9 days to 3 days, rest, then 4 days. For the 3 day stretch would you now be in the 3,2, then 1 day bucket even though originally before you called you were in the 5 day.
Seems kind of shady if that's the case and you could be given a trip that should have gone to a different guy.
Seems kind of shady if that's the case and you could be given a trip that should have gone to a different guy.
I’m unclear what you are asking, I think. You are saying before they assign any trips before the whole 9 days, they put they put the 30-hour rest? I guess your last paragraph would be correct, though it’s super rare to put 30-hour rest on your schedule that early, especially non-FRMS. But yes, I think you are right.
01-03-2024 | 07:21 AM
#1526
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SCC on the timecard.
So here's something that might have been covered in the past, but it was new to me last month.
If you have a SC that starts late enough in the day to cross midnight, and you are NOT used, our 1985 DOS pay system doesn't know where to put the "SCC" 1:00.
For those new to RES, if you are assigned SC and not used, you get "one hour pay, no credit (above the reserve guarantee)." (SRH pg. 81)
If the SC was entirely in one calendar day and you aren't used, the system will automatically put the SCC on your time card once scheduling puts SCC on your calendar. It should show on your time card in the SKED TIME and the PAY TIME columns (no CREDIT). If the SC crosses midnight, the SCC still populates on the timecard, but it may or may not have anything in the SKED/PAY columns.
If you look at your time card, (assuming a SCC line, and the LOG STAT column shows CLSD) if there is nothing in these two columns, call scheduling. (The system didn't catch it automatically and the scheduler on duty closing it out missed it.) If it's done as soon as it shows CLSD, any scheduler can fix it. If it's late in the month and they've closed out the month, it takes a supervisor's override. They don't balk at it since it's an obvious programming issue, but it means more time on hold.
So here's something that might have been covered in the past, but it was new to me last month.
If you have a SC that starts late enough in the day to cross midnight, and you are NOT used, our 1985 DOS pay system doesn't know where to put the "SCC" 1:00.
For those new to RES, if you are assigned SC and not used, you get "one hour pay, no credit (above the reserve guarantee)." (SRH pg. 81)
If the SC was entirely in one calendar day and you aren't used, the system will automatically put the SCC on your time card once scheduling puts SCC on your calendar. It should show on your time card in the SKED TIME and the PAY TIME columns (no CREDIT). If the SC crosses midnight, the SCC still populates on the timecard, but it may or may not have anything in the SKED/PAY columns.
If you look at your time card, (assuming a SCC line, and the LOG STAT column shows CLSD) if there is nothing in these two columns, call scheduling. (The system didn't catch it automatically and the scheduler on duty closing it out missed it.) If it's done as soon as it shows CLSD, any scheduler can fix it. If it's late in the month and they've closed out the month, it takes a supervisor's override. They don't balk at it since it's an obvious programming issue, but it means more time on hold.
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01-03-2024 | 08:17 AM
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01-03-2024 | 04:14 PM
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SCC on the timecard.
So here's something that might have been covered in the past, but it was new to me last month.
If you have a SC that starts late enough in the day to cross midnight, and you are NOT used, our 1985 DOS pay system doesn't know where to put the "SCC" 1:00.
For those new to RES, if you are assigned SC and not used, you get "one hour pay, no credit (above the reserve guarantee)." (SRH pg. 81)
If the SC was entirely in one calendar day and you aren't used, the system will automatically put the SCC on your time card once scheduling puts SCC on your calendar. It should show on your time card in the SKED TIME and the PAY TIME columns (no CREDIT). If the SC crosses midnight, the SCC still populates on the timecard, but it may or may not have anything in the SKED/PAY columns.
If you look at your time card, (assuming a SCC line, and the LOG STAT column shows CLSD) if there is nothing in these two columns, call scheduling. (The system didn't catch it automatically and the scheduler on duty closing it out missed it.) If it's done as soon as it shows CLSD, any scheduler can fix it. If it's late in the month and they've closed out the month, it takes a supervisor's override. They don't balk at it since it's an obvious programming issue, but it means more time on hold.
So here's something that might have been covered in the past, but it was new to me last month.
If you have a SC that starts late enough in the day to cross midnight, and you are NOT used, our 1985 DOS pay system doesn't know where to put the "SCC" 1:00.
For those new to RES, if you are assigned SC and not used, you get "one hour pay, no credit (above the reserve guarantee)." (SRH pg. 81)
If the SC was entirely in one calendar day and you aren't used, the system will automatically put the SCC on your time card once scheduling puts SCC on your calendar. It should show on your time card in the SKED TIME and the PAY TIME columns (no CREDIT). If the SC crosses midnight, the SCC still populates on the timecard, but it may or may not have anything in the SKED/PAY columns.
If you look at your time card, (assuming a SCC line, and the LOG STAT column shows CLSD) if there is nothing in these two columns, call scheduling. (The system didn't catch it automatically and the scheduler on duty closing it out missed it.) If it's done as soon as it shows CLSD, any scheduler can fix it. If it's late in the month and they've closed out the month, it takes a supervisor's override. They don't balk at it since it's an obvious programming issue, but it means more time on hold.
01-03-2024 | 05:04 PM
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SCC on the timecard.
So here's something that might have been covered in the past, but it was new to me last month.
If you have a SC that starts late enough in the day to cross midnight, and you are NOT used, our 1985 DOS pay system doesn't know where to put the "SCC" 1:00.
For those new to RES, if you are assigned SC and not used, you get "one hour pay, no credit (above the reserve guarantee)." (SRH pg. 81)
If the SC was entirely in one calendar day and you aren't used, the system will automatically put the SCC on your time card once scheduling puts SCC on your calendar. It should show on your time card in the SKED TIME and the PAY TIME columns (no CREDIT). If the SC crosses midnight, the SCC still populates on the timecard, but it may or may not have anything in the SKED/PAY columns.
If you look at your time card, (assuming a SCC line, and the LOG STAT column shows CLSD) if there is nothing in these two columns, call scheduling. (The system didn't catch it automatically and the scheduler on duty closing it out missed it.) If it's done as soon as it shows CLSD, any scheduler can fix it. If it's late in the month and they've closed out the month, it takes a supervisor's override. They don't balk at it since it's an obvious programming issue, but it means more time on hold.
So here's something that might have been covered in the past, but it was new to me last month.
If you have a SC that starts late enough in the day to cross midnight, and you are NOT used, our 1985 DOS pay system doesn't know where to put the "SCC" 1:00.
For those new to RES, if you are assigned SC and not used, you get "one hour pay, no credit (above the reserve guarantee)." (SRH pg. 81)
If the SC was entirely in one calendar day and you aren't used, the system will automatically put the SCC on your time card once scheduling puts SCC on your calendar. It should show on your time card in the SKED TIME and the PAY TIME columns (no CREDIT). If the SC crosses midnight, the SCC still populates on the timecard, but it may or may not have anything in the SKED/PAY columns.
If you look at your time card, (assuming a SCC line, and the LOG STAT column shows CLSD) if there is nothing in these two columns, call scheduling. (The system didn't catch it automatically and the scheduler on duty closing it out missed it.) If it's done as soon as it shows CLSD, any scheduler can fix it. If it's late in the month and they've closed out the month, it takes a supervisor's override. They don't balk at it since it's an obvious programming issue, but it means more time on hold.
Is there any correlation to the MiCrew little green corner on the date of the short call? I had an overnight SC and noticed there was no green marker like there was on my daytime SC assignments. Maybe it was a coincidence, but it's been bothering me.
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