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Old 04-03-2024, 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Aircowboy1 View Post
Anyone know how long until a line holder on the A320 out of DTW, or MSP, or even ATL? Also while on reserve how often someone is upgraded to SC reserve?
It varies, and this is just one data point: Looking only at this month, the very last person to get a line was at about 95%, but you don't see any consistency until closer to 90%, and in MSP closer to 85%. How long will it take you to get to those percentages? That's a much harder question to answer. Supposedly, we have front-loaded our hiring for this year, and will have a much lower rate the rest of the year, so it will take longer than those hired in the last few years experineced. That said, reserve isn't bad here, at all. Especially if you live in base.

As to how many SC's, realize that trips are assigned first, and those remaining without a trip are where they assign SC's. So, if you are getting hammered with Open Time trips, you may never be in a position to get even one SC. But when there aren't a lot of Open Time trips, and lots of folks are available for SC, you might get more. Historically, you could expect maybe 1-2 a month. With our new contract, they seem to be handing out more SC's to cover the longer lead-time for Long Call (went from 12 to 18 hours), so expect maybe a couple extra a month, so maybe 3-4 on average. There may be occasional months where you get the maximum of 6, however. Expect to get used off SC a minority of the time (IOW, most SC periods you will not get a trip, and will just sit there. Again, it's great if you live in base).

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Old 04-03-2024, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15 View Post
It varies, and this is just one data point: Looking only at this month, the very last person to get a line was at about 95%, but you don't see any consistency until closer to 90%, and in MSP closer to 85%. How long will it take you to get to those percentages? That's a much harder question to answer. Supposedly, we have front-loaded our hiring for this year, and will have a much lower rate the rest of the year, so it will take longer than those hired in the last few years experineced. That said, reserve isn't bad here, at all. Especially if you live in base.

As to how many SC's, realize that trips are assigned first, and those remaining without a trip are where they assign SC's. So, if you are getting hammered with Open Time trips, you may never be in a position to get even one SC. But when there aren't a lot of Open Time trips, and lots of folks are available for SC, you might get more. Historically, you could expect maybe 1-2 a month. With our new contract, they seem to be handing out more SC's to cover the longer lead-time for Long Call (went from 12 to 18 hours), so expect maybe a couple extra a month, so maybe 3-4 on average. There may be occasional months where you get the maximum of 6, however. Expect to get used off SC a minority of the time (IOW, most SC periods you will not get a trip, and will just sit there. Again, it's great if you live in base).

Hope that helps.
Good write up and agree with all of it except for the not getting used on SC part. In the old days it was quite rare to actually get tagged while sitting short call, I had one 5 year span where I only got used twice. However, due to their new incarnation as placeholders that has changed a bit. Roughly half of my SCs this year have had assignments added to them about 10-18 hrs out.
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Old 04-03-2024, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 20Fathoms View Post
Good write up and agree with all of it except for the not getting used on SC part. In the old days it was quite rare to actually get tagged while sitting short call, I had one 5 year span where I only got used twice. However, due to their new incarnation as placeholders that has changed a bit. Roughly half of my SCs this year have had assignments added to them about 10-18 hrs out.
Interesting data point. My expericence has been different recently but I suppose that's somewhat to be expected in individual circumstances. There used to be some statistics published (by ALPA?) about domestic and International SC usage by %. Don't quote me, but I seem to remmeber that domestic was comfortably under 50%, and International was single digit %. Would be really intersting to see how/if that has changed, and whether putting more poeple on SC after C19 has diluted the percentages any. I guarantee the company has that number, just not sure if we can see it easily.
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Old 04-04-2024, 01:43 PM
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My last GS owed me 2 PBs. They put them on my next 2 RES days but didn't give me the PR due the following day. AFTER the trip I had to tell them to code it F#1 and to add the PR. These mistakes are VERY common when PBs are added when the trip is assigned. The G#1 code was shorting me 2 hours of GS pay.
I had 4 PB days on my schedule plus the PR on day 5 which was all correct from a spill GS. Even gave me the 13 hours after ocean crossing! First time I haven’t had to call about that.

Subsequently awarded a 4 day res GS (3 day with deadhead day 4). I had 4 days of reserve after that which butted up against CQ. CS already put the PB/PR on those days but only got 3 PB plus 1 PR.

It should be 4 correct, plus a PR after my CQ days? Do I wait until May to say something….
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Old 04-04-2024, 02:31 PM
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I had 4 PB days on my schedule plus the PR on day 5 which was all correct from a spill GS. Even gave me the 13 hours after ocean crossing! First time I haven’t had to call about that.

Subsequently awarded a 4 day res GS (3 day with deadhead day 4). I had 4 days of reserve after that which butted up against CQ. CS already put the PB/PR on those days but only got 3 PB plus 1 PR.

It should be 4 correct, plus a PR after my CQ days? Do I wait until May to say something….
it might help to think of the application of PB days with the “partial” in mind first.

if you fly a 1-day GS over an X-day and it blocks in before 14:30 (later of actual or scheduled), you would expect your X-day to “begin” from 9 hours and 30 minutes from that point and go 24 hours.

Assume a non-transoceanic rotation:

Block in 14:00. Add :30 for release. Add 9:00 hours free from duty.

Result 23:30 X day “begin” (on your current X day). You’ll then add 24 hours to this and your new X day will end at 23:30 one day later. You’ll see this reflected as a PR.

If your 4-day green slip (or reroute or IA) touches 4 X days but your final duty period releases prior to 15:00 you should expect to see PB PB PB PR.
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Old 04-04-2024, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by cencal83406 View Post
it might help to think of the application of PB days with the “partial” in mind first.

if you fly a 1-day GS over an X-day and it blocks in before 14:30 (later of actual or scheduled), you would expect your X-day to “begin” from 9 hours and 30 minutes from that point and go 24 hours.

Assume a non-transoceanic rotation:

Block in 14:00. Add :30 for release. Add 9:00 hours free from duty.

Result 23:30 X day “begin” (on your current X day). You’ll then add 24 hours to this and your new X day will end at 23:30 one day later. You’ll see this reflected as a PR.

If your 4-day green slip (or reroute or IA) touches 4 X days but your final duty period releases prior to 15:00 you should expect to see PB PB PB PR.
Thanks! I see how it works, 1500 non-oceanic, 1100 oceanic.

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Old 04-05-2024, 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by cencal83406 View Post
If your 4-day green slip (or reroute or IA) touches 4 X days but your final duty period releases prior to 15:00 you should expect to see PB PB PB PR.

To add to this. Runfast, if you had a PR on your schedule before this GS, then they need to make that PR a full PB day BEFORE applying PB days for the GS just awarded. I've seen that messed up quite a few times recently.
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Old 04-08-2024, 08:02 AM
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Does anybody know how to set the preference to move yourself down one day available group while on reserve? For instance if you are in the 4 days available group you can be moved to 3 days available if there are 1 more reserves in the 4 day bucket as there are trips available?

Has that part even been implemented yet?

I'm not anywhere near my EFB right now otherwise I'd look it up myself and I can't find anything obvious in iCrew.

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Does anybody know how to set the preference to move yourself down one day available group while on reserve? For instance if you are in the 4 days available group you can be moved to 3 days available if there are 1 more reserves in the 4 day bucket as there are trips available?

Has that part even been implemented yet?

I'm not anywhere near my EFB right now otherwise I'd look it up myself and I can't find anything obvious in iCrew.

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It's in the yellow slip template at the top.
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Originally Posted by CBreezy View Post
It's in the yellow slip template at the top.
Doh! I see it now. You actually have to click into the yellow slip to be first for flying on call days and then submit a preference.

I wasn't expecting it to be in the first for flying category. Does that mean if you select that as your only option you will be called before anybody else in the lower days available grouping, regardless of seniority?

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