Reserve for Dummies
03-22-2024, 04:13 AM
#1611
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: B737 FO
Posts: 664
Originally Posted by crewdawg
Yup, I'm now more surprised when they actually get it right. Another new one was having a GS rejected by scheduling due to a "rest issue," because the scheduler didn't drop the reserve assignment they had given me before I was called for the GS. Called and got it fixed but there is clearly a lack of knowledge/experience in scheduling right now. Gotta watch them close.
03-22-2024, 06:46 AM
#1612
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Posts: 3,838
Originally Posted by BlueSkies
Wow! I'm speechless on that one...
03-24-2024, 11:51 AM
#1613
Back on Reserve
Joined APC: Dec 2012
Position: A330 FO
Posts: 671
Originally Posted by NuGuy
So, in my monthly post of "how it used to be at NWA", the schedulers there had a minimum of 10 years in with the Company before they could transfer to the scheduler position. It paid well, and was a coveted position. No crew tracking, a number of schedluers were "crew coordinators" for during trip issues, but there was no functional difference. Most of the people you spoke with on the phone were over 20 years in, and beleive me, they knew the NWA contract better than you did. Most were legit, though, and if you knew your stuff there weren't a lot of issues. Some were very nice, and one in particular would have everyone sitting reserve in MSP over to their home on Thansgiving and Xmas for kind of a pot luck dinner, but she cooked the turkey and ham.
03-27-2024, 09:31 AM
#1614
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jul 2016
Posts: 39
Quick question- I called in fatigued for a reserve rotation and gave a rested/ready time of 1700. Initially my schedule said that I would go back on LC at 1701, so my thinking was the earliest assignment they could give me was 1101 tomorrow. Now they put a rotation on my schedule (I have not acknowledged it) for tomorrow that reports at 0715. Are they just baiting me to see if I'll take it? Or am I still on LC even though I'm within my rest window for the fatigue call?
03-27-2024, 10:27 AM
#1615
Roll’n Thunder
Joined APC: Oct 2009
Position: Pilot
Posts: 3,552
Originally Posted by HisDudenes5
Quick question- I called in fatigued for a reserve rotation and gave a rested/ready time of 1700. Initially my schedule said that I would go back on LC at 1701, so my thinking was the earliest assignment they could give me was 1101 tomorrow. Now they put a rotation on my schedule (I have not acknowledged it) for tomorrow that reports at 0715. Are they just baiting me to see if I'll take it? Or am I still on LC even though I'm within my rest window for the fatigue call?
03-27-2024, 05:08 PM
#1616
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Joined APC: Apr 2016
Position: Looking left
Posts: 3,251
Originally Posted by HisDudenes5
Quick question- I called in fatigued for a reserve rotation and gave a rested/ready time of 1700. Initially my schedule said that I would go back on LC at 1701, so my thinking was the earliest assignment they could give me was 1101 tomorrow. Now they put a rotation on my schedule (I have not acknowledged it) for tomorrow that reports at 0715. Are they just baiting me to see if I'll take it? Or am I still on LC even though I'm within my rest window for the fatigue call?
Originally Posted by tennisguru
This is a grey area that I’ve been wondering about. I’ve seen fatigue calls where the pilot stays on LC but just isn’t eligible to report for any assignment until their R&R time. On reserve I don’t know if the company is required to actually put you into rest or just release you from duty. If they do put you into rest and the rest is less than 24 hours then that is not considered a non-fly day, so you can’t be made to report before 18 hours from the end of rest. I’d probably ask this question on the scheduling FB page or even call the 117 helpline to get more official guidance.
Agree with Tennis....PWA is specific and says a non-fly days is a 24hr period, so unless you gave them a ready time after needing 24hrs of rest, then you aren't coming off a non-fly day, therefore the PWA sections that talk about starting a rotation or SC as early as 10 hours as long as it was assinged NLT 12hrs before are not in play in this scenario.
03-28-2024, 11:29 AM
#1617
On Reserve
Joined APC: Aug 2021
Posts: 15
Originally Posted by HisDudenes5
Quick question- I called in fatigued for a reserve rotation and gave a rested/ready time of 1700. Initially my schedule said that I would go back on LC at 1701, so my thinking was the earliest assignment they could give me was 1101 tomorrow. Now they put a rotation on my schedule (I have not acknowledged it) for tomorrow that reports at 0715. Are they just baiting me to see if I'll take it? Or am I still on LC even though I'm within my rest window for the fatigue call?
So calling a fatigue-driven rest period a LC period for PWA purposes is dubious, unless as tennis and DWC point out, your rest window happens to exceed 23:59, and the rest period morphs into a non-fly day.
03-28-2024, 12:48 PM
#1618
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Joined APC: Mar 2019
Posts: 932
Originally Posted by HisDudenes5
Quick question- I called in fatigued for a reserve rotation and gave a rested/ready time of 1700. Initially my schedule said that I would go back on LC at 1701, so my thinking was the earliest assignment they could give me was 1101 tomorrow. Now they put a rotation on my schedule (I have not acknowledged it) for tomorrow that reports at 0715. Are they just baiting me to see if I'll take it? Or am I still on LC even though I'm within my rest window for the fatigue call?
03-30-2024, 10:37 AM
#1619
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jul 2016
Posts: 39
Originally Posted by 20Fathoms
Any update on how this got resolved?
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