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Rogue24 06-28-2013 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by Vikz09 (Post 1435949)
MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russian state-controlled airline Aeroflot (AFLT.ME) is considering leaving the SkyTeam alliance because of unfavorable agreements with other members, in particular U.S. Delta Air Lines Inc (DAL.N), Kommersant reported on Friday.
The newspaper cited sources close to Aeroflot's board of directors as saying the company was not happy with the development of its routes in the United States, where its partner Delta Air Lines Inc (DAL.N) offers high fares.
Aeroflot declined to comment on the report.
Dropping out of the alliance could cost Aeroflot $20 million and the airline may consider joining Star Alliance, the biggest airline marketing group, with 27 members.
As a member of SkyTeam, which brings together 19 global airlines, Aeroflot cannot undercut prices offered by other members and could be more competitive in the Star Alliance, group, Kommersant said.
The agreement to join SkyTeam in 2004 was signed in the Kremlin, a political stamp of approval largely due to close ties with Air France (AIRF.PA), the leading member.
(Reporting by Maya Dyakina and Gleb Stolyarov; editing by Elizabeth Piper)



So they are upset that once their passengers get to the US our pricing is to high? We require higher ticket prices? Not real sure what they expect would change if they shackle (no pun intended) up with star. I imagine we connect far more passengers to Aeroflot heading to Moscow then they bring Russians to Delta anyway. Be gone Aeroflot hopefully you can continue to fill those Yak's on inter Russian routes.

Never liked those communists anyway!


This is funny. Go look at the AF and KLM websites and price tickets on their site for seats on DAL metal. They are undercutting our prices on our metal. A few hundred bucks for each seat is what I saw when I was looking two weeks ago. Biggest offenders were AMS-ATL and CDG-ATL. It appears that KLM and AF are trying to undercut our prices on our metal to get Europeans to fly Skyteam, but DAL is not doing so when you try to book the same flights through the DAL website.

tomgoodman 06-28-2013 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1436135)
I was walking to the employee bus in Atlanta and almost got run over by a pilot. Luckily I jumped back.

I was to the drivers right but he was more concerned about a bus coming so he kept looking left the entire time.

Was it a Glorified Bus, or just a regular one? :p

Vikz09 06-28-2013 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1436110)
And they offer way more US-Russia flights to "code share" on than we do. Maybe if they join Star we can add the second SVO out of ATL again and possibly a seasonal LED a few days a week.


The irony of leaving one alliance for the other because somehow STAR ALLIANCE would have lower ticket prices. I would be more excited if they left than stayed. I figure we may have at least a chance of adding flying versus just code sharing it away.

It's not like any US carrier says "you know what is missing from our network...Russia". The demand for Americans heading to Russia on a daily basis must be very low unless it's to NYC or MIA.

Vikz09 06-28-2013 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by Rogue24 (Post 1436240)
This is funny. Go look at the AF and KLM websites and price tickets on their site for seats on DAL metal. They are undercutting our prices on our metal. A few hundred bucks for each seat is what I saw when I was looking two weeks ago. Biggest offenders were AMS-ATL and CDG-ATL. It appears that KLM and AF are trying to undercut our prices on our metal to get Europeans to fly Skyteam, but DAL is not doing so when you try to book the same flights through the DAL website.


That's interesting because according to the article and the alliance that is not allowed. Perhaps we charge a premium for Russians because of their unstable behavior with all those crazy Ivan's:) and risky golden touch drivers. It's a gamble every time I hear that accent and get picked up at Newark to head downtown NYC.

Rogue24 06-28-2013 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by Vikz09 (Post 1436275)
That's interesting because according to the article and the alliance that is not allowed. Perhaps we charge a premium for Russians because of their unstable behavior with all those crazy Ivan's:) and risky golden touch drivers. It's a gamble every time I hear that accent and get picked up at Newark to head downtown NYC.

Skyteam is one thing, but a JV is another animal completely. Skyteam is not all JV partners, remember that. What the JV is, is basically a merger without a corporate closing and merging of employee groups. Pricing, network and profit loss are shared with AF.

gloopy 06-28-2013 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by Vikz09 (Post 1436273)
The irony of leaving one alliance for the other because somehow STAR ALLIANCE would have lower ticket prices. I would be more excited if they left than stayed. I figure we may have at least a chance of adding flying versus just code sharing it away.

It's not like any US carrier says "you know what is missing from our network...Russia". The demand for Americans heading to Russia on a daily basis must be very low unless it's to NYC or MIA.

I think its a pretty good market already and one that has growth potential down the road. I'd add DC to that list as well for heavy O&D and numerous large and mid sized cities for connections. Its interesting how DL was the only US airline to fly there for a while, then all the sudden everyone else capacity dumped and DL pulled one flight a day out to gift the capacity back and used Aeroflot to pick up the peak flying slack.

TenYearsGone 06-28-2013 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by firstmob (Post 1435750)
Additional info needed, please.

Sorry for the delay: JAL, from what I have been told, has 9 or so -400 that are being returned to BOEING in exchange for the 787.

9 extra -400 to Delta would be a nice little start.

TEN

firstmob 06-28-2013 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by TenYearsGone (Post 1436402)
Sorry for the delay: JAL, from what I have been told, has 9 or so -400 that are being returned to BOEING in exchange for the 787.

9 extra -400 to Delta would be a nice little start.

TEN

Agree, thanks for the update.

forgot to bid 06-28-2013 05:41 PM

9 744s?

Carl maybe your guy was right after all?

porpilot 06-28-2013 05:49 PM

Currently making sweet love to the md88 qual cd. This thing takes forever. Please tell me they pay us for this?


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