Originally Posted by legend

I have spoken to a few junior FOs and some Captains recently about our Jump seat priority within Endeavor pilots. Some think it's based on Seniority, but pass the word around it is not. It's first come first serve! Ex: the most junior FO at Endeavor shows up at gate and list for the jump seat (First come first serve within priority category ) and the most senior CA at Endeavor shows up afterwards and insist he can bump the junior guy on the jump seat! Not true! The FO who got there first gets it. Please people, some have been stranded because someone doesn't know our policy within Endeavor!! Don't be that person.

Thanks for listening and now back to your regular scheduled program!!

Originally Posted by musketeer

For anyone on the fence about the worthlessness of the DGI, I just want to point out a few things.

The DGI is non contractual and can be cancelled at any time. Worse than that, though, is the language of the simple 2 page .pdf that anyone can view. I'm going to paraphrase so that it is easy to understand, but if you think I'm exaggerating just google "EDV DGI".

Number of DGI Interviews
a. Delta can interview as few as 12 DGIs/month.
ii. DGIs will consume no more than 30% of Delta interview opportunities.
iii. The DGI can be changed at the New Year, any year (keep in mind the day doesn't matter; they can cancel it any time).
iv. Endeavor can further limit the DGI to not exceed 20% of their captain list in any given 12 month cycle.

All of that is in the not-even-fine print. Remember: that's in a 2 page brochure bragging about it.

If you aren't so good at math, the big one is 12/month. That's 144/year. That means that there are already around 3.5 years of interviews lined up at a minimum. AFTER you make captain for 2 years.

How people can defend the DGI is absolutely BANANAS.

I wish the best for everyone here. I came for the money, the QoL, the money, and the money. I'm happy here, but the DGI is absolute garbage. I didn't even factor it into my decision to come here, and I'd recommend you don't, either.

Originally Posted by msprj2

I think your wrong on this.
It can be improved but not cancelled without a class action lawsuit.
Every pilot who has been hired since DGI came out has been made a promise in writing. It is then a contract between the pilots and 9E and Delta. Even though ALPA isn't involved the lawyers would be if It is taken away. It's no different unless it states that It can be taken away at any time.

Originally Posted by gojo

I asked the union last week to talk about this subject in one of their ALPA emails. In JFK I saw one of our newer FO's get left behind because there was a JetBlue guy listed for the Jumpseat on Delta. The gate agent insisted it was first come for all off line. Not true we have priority over everyone but Delta or FAA. Just as they have priority over everyone but us on on our metal.

Originally Posted by Slaveaway

Gate agent should know better.

Originally Posted by Slaveaway

Gate agent should know better.

Originally Posted by prex8390

idk, my own rule of thumb is if it's gonna come down to fighting for a jumpseat, pay attention and don't leave the general vicinity of the podium, I think a lot of gates agents couldn't care less about the rules especially on the express side. They'll give it away in a heartbeat to someone else who is just as eager standing around if you look away for just that long.

Originally Posted by JesuitValen

I used to say, look just put me in the computer, it should automatically elevate me if I'm right. That used to work. I had a atl gate agent not want to do it in e concourse until i got a red coat.



The company needs to get us a way to checkin for a edv or delta jumpseat over the computer. Snapp was never meant to list jumpseaters, just process them after checking in. List early somewhere else and let the computer overrule them.



With all that said, ive been left behind at the gate by lazy gate agents. Do your best, it works out more often than it doesnt.

Originally Posted by Av8er1550

I also have a question about jumpseating and nonrev. If you need to get somewhere do you just list as the jumpseat rider and NOT as a standby? I listed the other day as both because there was no way I was going as the standby but I wanted to do it just in case. Gate agent said you can't do both. How do you guys do this? List jumpseat first and be the last one on if they have a seat in the back? Just curious. Thanks for any feedback.


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