Originally Posted by FreightWasScary

At the end of the day we're all pilots and we do the same job.... look at the retirements.... look at the lifters... around 3,000 liters at all the regionals. Retirements that exceed that number by many. Just wait till first year pay meets mainline. Delta is smart enough to already integrate procedures. Look at your checklist then go jumpseat on mainline. Delta is delta they're a business and they already know what is about to happen. They're already making the process seamless. Half the new hires maybe more wear the hat "not me till we get something for it". Delta is keeping their regional because they're running a business and keeping the cost low as long as possible. Before long they're gonna mail us a hat a badge and a surface pro. Remember this post and tell me when I'm wrong.

Originally Posted by FreightWasScary

At the end of the day we're all pilots and we do the same job.... look at the retirements.... look at the lifters... around 3,000 liters at all the regionals. Retirements that exceed that number by many. Just wait till first year pay meets mainline. Delta is smart enough to already integrate procedures. Look at your checklist then go jumpseat on mainline. Delta is delta they're a business and they already know what is about to happen. They're already making the process seamless. Half the new hires maybe more wear the hat "not me till we get something for it". Delta is keeping their regional because they're running a business and keeping the cost low as long as possible. Before long they're gonna mail us a hat a badge and a surface pro. Remember this post and tell me when I'm wrong.

Originally Posted by musketeer

For anyone on the fence about the worthlessness of the DGI, I just want to point out a few things.

The DGI is non contractual and can be cancelled at any time. Worse than that, though, is the language of the simple 2 page .pdf that anyone can view. I'm going to paraphrase so that it is easy to understand, but if you think I'm exaggerating just google "EDV DGI".

Number of DGI Interviews
a. Delta can interview as few as 12 DGIs/month.
ii. DGIs will consume no more than 30% of Delta interview opportunities.
iii. The DGI can be changed at the New Year, any year (keep in mind the day doesn't matter; they can cancel it any time).
iv. Endeavor can further limit the DGI to not exceed 20% of their captain list in any given 12 month cycle.

All of that is in the not-even-fine print. Remember: that's in a 2 page brochure bragging about it.

If you aren't so good at math, the big one is 12/month. That's 144/year. That means that there are already around 3.5 years of interviews lined up at a minimum. AFTER you make captain for 2 years.

How people can defend the DGI is absolutely BANANAS.

I wish the best for everyone here. I came for the money, the QoL, the money, and the money. I'm happy here, but the DGI is absolute garbage. I didn't even factor it into my decision to come here, and I'd recommend you don't, either.

Originally Posted by legend

I have spoken to a few junior FOs and some Captains recently about our Jump seat priority within Endeavor pilots. Some think it's based on Seniority, but pass the word around it is not. It's first come first serve! Ex: the most junior FO at Endeavor shows up at gate and list for the jump seat (First come first serve within priority category ) and the most senior CA at Endeavor shows up afterwards and insist he can bump the junior guy on the jump seat! Not true! The FO who got there first gets it. Please people, some have been stranded because someone doesn't know our policy within Endeavor!! Don't be that person.

Thanks for listening and now back to your regular scheduled program!!

Originally Posted by musketeer

For anyone on the fence about the worthlessness of the DGI, I just want to point out a few things.

The DGI is non contractual and can be cancelled at any time. Worse than that, though, is the language of the simple 2 page .pdf that anyone can view. I'm going to paraphrase so that it is easy to understand, but if you think I'm exaggerating just google "EDV DGI".

Number of DGI Interviews
a. Delta can interview as few as 12 DGIs/month.
ii. DGIs will consume no more than 30% of Delta interview opportunities.
iii. The DGI can be changed at the New Year, any year (keep in mind the day doesn't matter; they can cancel it any time).
iv. Endeavor can further limit the DGI to not exceed 20% of their captain list in any given 12 month cycle.

All of that is in the not-even-fine print. Remember: that's in a 2 page brochure bragging about it.

If you aren't so good at math, the big one is 12/month. That's 144/year. That means that there are already around 3.5 years of interviews lined up at a minimum. AFTER you make captain for 2 years.

How people can defend the DGI is absolutely BANANAS.

I wish the best for everyone here. I came for the money, the QoL, the money, and the money. I'm happy here, but the DGI is absolute garbage. I didn't even factor it into my decision to come here, and I'd recommend you don't, either.

Originally Posted by msprj2

I think your wrong on this.
It can be improved but not cancelled without a class action lawsuit.
Every pilot who has been hired since DGI came out has been made a promise in writing. It is then a contract between the pilots and 9E and Delta. Even though ALPA isn't involved the lawyers would be if It is taken away. It's no different unless it states that It can be taken away at any time.

Originally Posted by gojo

I asked the union last week to talk about this subject in one of their ALPA emails. In JFK I saw one of our newer FO's get left behind because there was a JetBlue guy listed for the Jumpseat on Delta. The gate agent insisted it was first come for all off line. Not true we have priority over everyone but Delta or FAA. Just as they have priority over everyone but us on on our metal.

Originally Posted by Slaveaway

Gate agent should know better.

Originally Posted by Slaveaway

Gate agent should know better.