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Old 02-08-2016, 07:27 PM
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Don't leave us hanging like that Mr.Higney!
Some crazy stuff flying around here; )
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Old 02-08-2016, 07:28 PM
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Yep, had one base assigned during ground, vacancy came out, was home based once IOE was completed. Initial base isn't end of the world. I wanted 200 and got it. It's my first jet and it's a fun plane. Ended up being a good choice, with more coming from Kingman.

What is differences like? I know there is an oral and PC, but is it handled differently than initial?
AQP is now in place for initial, recurrent, and upgrade. Differences is the last piece and it will be happening very shortly. Either way, the training department will do all we can to make it a low stress learning process. Not saying it's easy, but surprises aren't in the routine, it's all clearly explained, and trained, prior to any jeopardy event. Don't worry, just have a positive attitude with the needed effort of learning and all will be well.

Nobody gets satisfaction in failing someone. If nothing else, the paperwork sucks. So it's avoided, unless it's needed. It happens, but it's rare and normally a result of attitude to not study the things required. It's not rocket science and a much "simpler" process from when I started where you needed to "build the plane". You will be trained on how everything works, and will be checked on what you can control from the flight deck. Everything is laid out with all resources available to learn. Bring a good attitude and a desire to learn and all will be well. Basic instrument skills will be helpful though...
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Old 02-08-2016, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Five93H View Post
Yep, had one base assigned during ground, vacancy came out, was home based once IOE was completed. Initial base isn't end of the world. I wanted 200 and got it. It's my first jet and it's a fun plane. Ended up being a good choice, with more coming from Kingman.

What is differences like? I know there is an oral and PC, but is it handled differently than initial?
Just did differences training 200 to 900. I was away from the company for 6 months on military leave, but the course was straightforward and pretty easy. Know the buttons on the overhead panel, along with the differences, particularly FADEC and the pneumatic system. PC is just like any PC I think. It was fair, and it only took a little less than 2 hours in the box. Way less stuff than my ATP ride a few months back.

My only critique is the training footprint. It took about 3 weeks total, and I was the first to finish in my class. 4 days ground school, 2 FTDs, 3 sims, oral and PC, with 2-3 day breaks smattered in between all the training events. Positive space to and from your home address to training when you have 2+ days off.
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Old 02-08-2016, 08:33 PM
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Differences from a pilot perspective of 200 vs 900:

If you are 6'2' you can stand up straight. Taller? Still hosed from my 6'2 POV.
Bleed(s) is automatic
Fadec aka, climb well above FL180 better than the -200
2 FMS heads
Meals on long legs (-200 limited to 750mi)
Forward lav (worthless when doing less than 750 mi legs)
CA's make more, FO slightly more than -200... But living on reserve longer.

In the end, -200 FO will make more in first 18 months. Do the math.

That's it.
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Old 02-08-2016, 08:50 PM
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With all the classes being split and AQP style training, what could someone expect for an overall initial training footprint. I understand it will vary from class to class and person to person. I'm just looking for averages.
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Old 02-08-2016, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by higney85 View Post
Differences from a pilot perspective of 200 vs 900:

If you are 6'2' you can stand up straight. Taller? Still hosed from my 6'2 POV.
Bleed(s) is automatic
Fadec aka, climb well above FL180 better than the -200
2 FMS heads
Meals on long legs (-200 limited to 750mi)
Forward lav (worthless when doing less than 750 mi legs)
CA's make more, FO slightly more than -200... But living on reserve longer.

In the end, -200 FO will make more in first 18 months. Do the math.

That's it.
As long as I remember the exit sign halfway down the cabin, my head is safe on the 200. I'm happy on the 200, don't see a point jumping fleets right now.
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Old 02-08-2016, 08:55 PM
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With all the classes being split and AQP style training, what could someone expect for an overall initial training footprint. I understand it will vary from class to class and person to person. I'm just looking for averages.
They said it is taking 90 days, that seems like a long time to me but apparently they said it use to be 120 days. I am assuming that includes IOE.
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Training is about 2 months, start to OE. OE is dependent on the person and schedule. I believe 25 hours is the minimum, but some have to fly more before a LCA will sign them off.
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Old 02-09-2016, 06:12 AM
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They said it is taking 90 days, that seems like a long time to me but apparently they said it use to be 120 days. I am assuming that includes IOE.
It was 10 weeks from day one to my check ride, I was the first one done. 2 weeks at least for IOE including the 5 days off after Sims.

The only down side to training is commuting IMO. You get paid the same, go home every few days. So don't fret about how long training is.
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Commuting during training? I was told it's all positive space, paid for by the company. If you have two or more days off, they will buy you a ticket home.

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It was 10 weeks from day one to my check ride, I was the first one done. 2 weeks at least for IOE including the 5 days off after Sims.

The only down side to training is commuting IMO. You get paid the same, go home every few days. So don't fret about how long training is.
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