pitchattitude

Several reasons a PDT-ENY marriage wouldn’t happen that I mentioned before. The flying at PDT is the smallest group, but both companies do the majority of the other services for AAG. Underwing and gate agents and is a much bigger part of what they do. As I said, the are both ground services companies that happen to have some planes and pilots. I think they would keep the two separate for the whipsaw between them.

AAG is reducing 145 flying from Envoy and while I don’t think there have been anymore transfers to PDT for a while that’s where they were going. PSA and PDT would still be two different fleets but keeping all the 145s with Envoy would be the same and that would leave PSA a much smaller flight operation than Envoy so the whipsaw isn’t as effective.

AAG doesn’t want to BUY anything anytime soon they don’t have to. They are swimming in debt. They love RPA and SKW because they can buy the planes and AAG gives them the flying.

kaputt

How did that happen? Were you an off the street hire vs cadet and are you pretty young?

TXMike

Off the street.

In March orientation there were:
5 - cadets (they are first for #s)
3 - prior 121 (second group)
39 - everyone else

Everyone gets their seniority numbers in orientation across the three groups.

Me being older than most I was near the top of the third group but behind cadets and prior-121 experience people. Unfortunately the orientation size of 47 (50 in Feb) is too large to start as one class so they break the groups up across 2, 3, or maybe even 4 class start dates.

The class for 5/2 can not be larger than 13 because #14 and I have kept in touch and he doesn't have a class date yet.. so at best I am 10 of 13, perhaps #10 of 10.

Assuming an all 175 drop I have zero heartburn, base doesn't matter to me, I'll suck it up for a bid cycle or two. Either way I am going to make the best of it, learn my stuff and get to flying. I will advise here that evening what the drop was..

Have you interviewed or been to orientation yet?

uavking

Long enough to be a short timer, and also enough years to realize this place is shrinking...

Deathskippy

Has anyone else from the 3/10 orientation been called yet? I was 44 out of 47 and still yet to receive a call.

TXMike

The other 3/10 folks I keep in touch with have a 5/16 date now. They were in the early middle of the pack of 47. You are likely either 5/30 or 6/13. Enjoy your break..

NoValueAviator

Losing check airmen is an ongoing thing even though Delta has clearly demonstrated a preference for hiring junior FOs

expect further delays

TXMike

It held out.

5/2 (class 2219)
14 students
All 175
0 ORD
2 MIA
12 DFW

pitchattitude

Was ORD an option, or just no takers?

TXMike

No ORD spots available