Class Drop List
04-27-2022, 05:52 AM
#2232
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Joined APC: Feb 2022
Position: B737 Line FO
Posts: 70
Originally Posted by chihuahua
Do you know what the class was made up of? How many CFI, previous 121, cadets, military, etc?
04-27-2022, 05:55 AM
#2233
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Joined APC: Feb 2022
Position: B737 Line FO
Posts: 70
Originally Posted by Fizz21
Class size 13, MIA or DFW, all 175.
Had orientation on 2/16. Indoc 4/18. (Pay starts at orientation)
Should be everyone from Feb orientation. I was ~45/50 on orientation day.
Had orientation on 2/16. Indoc 4/18. (Pay starts at orientation)
Should be everyone from Feb orientation. I was ~45/50 on orientation day.
I am likely the plug in the 5/2 class start date next week. I was 10 of 47 in March 10 orientation but with classes broken up this small I'm likely bottom and even one or two 145 spots likely snag me into that bird.
So weird to be top 25% in orientation but still bottom in class break out. It is what it is I suppose.
I will advise the 5/2 class drop next week.
04-27-2022, 06:00 AM
#2234
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Joined APC: Feb 2022
Position: B737 Line FO
Posts: 70
Originally Posted by uavking
13?? This is a joke, right? So that puts us at something like 23 for the month?
Congrats on your spot at a shrinking regional. You probably didn't get this nugget as part of your indoc, but we've lost 63 this month as of mid-month (43 OAL/RE and 20 flow. Source: MEC). 23 minus 63 is not a positive delta...
Congrats on your spot at a shrinking regional. You probably didn't get this nugget as part of your indoc, but we've lost 63 this month as of mid-month (43 OAL/RE and 20 flow. Source: MEC). 23 minus 63 is not a positive delta...
How long have you been at Envoy?
Given the large orientation classes and active hiring I will assume then that the hold up is training resources to get people flowing through.. Or the other option is not enough captains to pair up new FOs with so no point in training new FO. (side note a friend that has his captain award had his upgrade training pushed out to August so I assume it is really training resources.)
04-27-2022, 06:55 AM
#2235
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Joined APC: Nov 2016
Posts: 2,465
Originally Posted by TXMike
What is your logic behind that statement?
04-27-2022, 06:55 AM
#2236
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Joined APC: Apr 2021
Posts: 17
Originally Posted by But seriously
This is true of almost every ALPA call for at least the last 5 years…
04-27-2022, 09:39 AM
#2237
In a land of unicorns
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Whale FO
Posts: 6,465
Originally Posted by highfarfast
That was probably just a stab at "anything's possible" by him. That said, AAG has a mountain of debt atm, selling off a WO doesn't seem unreasonable to me.
More likely though is to merge the 3.
04-27-2022, 10:01 AM
#2238
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Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,510
Originally Posted by dera
If they sell a WO, it is PSA. Envoy is in too tight with AAG with IT and such, and has a ton of additional stuff like below the wing ops to carry. PSA is just an airline, easiest to sell.
More likely though is to merge the 3.
More likely though is to merge the 3.
04-27-2022, 06:12 PM
#2239
In a land of unicorns
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Whale FO
Posts: 6,465
Originally Posted by pitchattitude
I don’t foresee AAG ever merging all three WOs. I’ll double down on PSA and PDT merging. That will leave two ground handling companies that both have planes and pilots that can be played against each other.
They can't really play that whipsaw game though, as long as the pilot group won't allow it. That would very quickly lead into requesting the NMB to do a single transportation system determination - something they already could do. The WOs are a perfect example of such, it hasn't been done yet because only one of the three really wanted it.
04-28-2022, 03:50 AM
#2240
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Joined APC: Jul 2018
Posts: 449
Originally Posted by pitchattitude
I don’t foresee AAG ever merging all three WOs. I’ll double down on PSA and PDT merging. That will leave two ground handling companies that both have planes and pilots that can be played against each other.
As for selling a wholly owned it seems to me AA needs all the regional lift they can get their hands on. I could almost see them trying to buy another regional to shore up their numbers.
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