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Old 04-18-2016 | 09:48 AM
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Management keep overselling the idea that there are advantages to having a Fleet Plan, being wholly owned, etc. And while I believe that's true, they're also overlook the hiring environment that's coming our way, an environment that causes the head of recruiting at United to tell everyone at WIA that in 3-5 years it's going to be very hard to fill their mainline flight decks.

Change is coming, and unfortunately AAG seems to have not read and understood that memo yet.
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Old 04-18-2016 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 272922
Management keep overselling the idea that there are advantages to having a Fleet Plan, being wholly owned, etc. And while I believe that's true, they're also overlook the hiring environment that's coming our way, an environment that causes the head of recruiting at United to tell everyone at WIA that in 3-5 years it's going to be very hard to fill their mainline flight decks.

Change is coming, and unfortunately AAG seems to have not read and understood that memo yet.
I guess we better just wait them out then, its the safest thing to do right 272922?
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Old 04-18-2016 | 10:01 AM
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I love watching you two go back and forth.
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Old 04-18-2016 | 10:24 AM
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I love watching you two go back and forth.
Not everyone is lucky enough to have their own personal troll.
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Old 04-18-2016 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 272922
Not everyone is lucky enough to have their own personal troll.
Maybe you should examine the reason you came into such good fortune. I'll give you a hint. It's your moronic company appeasement ideals.
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Old 04-18-2016 | 11:27 AM
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I don't disagree with your points. But do you believe any other regional out there is any different while recruiting?


I didn't say it was just Envoy. But what Mr. Company Man indicated is that Envoy is "the" airline and selling that Envoy crap don't stink. That is completely false. They have beaten us down and twisted us sideways just to get a fleet plan. Now after that we continue to be harassed, threatened, and have our collectively bargained contract, black and white legal document, abused by company men like himself and his superiors. That is my point. He is using tactics just like the men and women are using in recruiting.

Tell only the good. Never say the bad. It's all roses. You all are crazy and should be fired.
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Old 04-18-2016 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by highflyer1980
I didn't say it was just Envoy. But what Mr. Company Man indicated is that Envoy is "the" airline and selling that Envoy crap don't stink. That is completely false. They have beaten us down and twisted us sideways just to get a fleet plan. Now after that we continue to be harassed, threatened, and have our collectively bargained contract, black and white legal document, abused by company men like himself and his superiors. That is my point. He is using tactics just like the men and women are using in recruiting.

Tell only the good. Never say the bad. It's all roses. You all are crazy and should be fired.
Let me guess... envoy is your first "real" job. You have never served fries, mopped floors or any other crappy labor job. Take it from someone who has many crappy jobs that paid for his own college and flight training. Half the crappy stuff that goes on at envoy goes on a most companies. If you think the grass is greener, I encourage you to jump the fence and give it a try.
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Old 04-18-2016 | 11:39 AM
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Maybe you should examine the reason you came into such good fortune. I'll give you a hint. It's your moronic company appeasement ideals.
Start that decertification drive yet?

Put up or shut up.
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Old 04-18-2016 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by FirstClass
Maybe you should examine the reason you came into such good fortune. I'll give you a hint. It's your moronic company appeasement ideals.
Go back to your PSA thread.
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Old 04-18-2016 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by FlameNSky
Let me guess... envoy is your first "real" job. You have never served fries, mopped floors or any other crappy labor job. Take it from someone who has many crappy jobs that paid for his own college and flight training. Half the crappy stuff that goes on at envoy goes on a most companies. If you think the grass is greener, I encourage you to jump the fence and give it a try.
Don't try to justify the BS that goes on at this company.
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