Once holding a line do the days off stay at 11? How long till one can hold 12-14 off?


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I don't see many 11 day off hard lines. 12 or 13 are more common. 14 is probably average. Like any seniority based system, as you seniority improves, so do the quality of the line you can hold. I would plan on being on reserve between 6 to 12 months.

 

I own you and this thread so watch yourself.

 

20/120 CRJ lines are 11 days off. If you take the lack of commutability into consideration, your true days off drops. I picked a random line of the 11 day off lines, and three of the four day trips are early starts, requiring a commuter to fly in the night before. Take away .5 of a day off for each trip and you're looking at 9.5 True Days Off per month. A random 13 day off line, three trips finishing late, bringing that one down to 11.5 TDO. Now a random 15 day off line. Five trips either start too early or finish too late! You're swapping your body clock all month! Subtract 2.5 and that is 12.5 TDO. The lack of commutability is killing these schedules, and it doesn't seem to correlate with seniority much, either. That 15 day off line is a three day trip line, one typically bid by the most senior pilots.

One more addition - the CRJ lines are typically better than the EMJ lines.

 

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That's the post I was intending to reply to.

 

Well done then.

 

I don't disagree with this necessarily, but it should be tempered with the fact that those who choose to bid RSV; even as commuters, can easily get 16-18 days at home. If they are in the top 50% of the RSV rotation. We'll see how long that lasts as we get deeper into summer though.

 

Maybe you shouldn't make assumptions before opening your mouth. I have been to "other" pastures, junior. I know how bad it can be. But last I checked this is the Envoy thread. So if you don't like me spouting the truth, then maybe you can go complain to Papa Parker and get him to start playing nice to the hard working Envoy pilots. Until then, enjoy your empty promises like always. I've been paying my school loans for years before I ever came to Eagle. You can go wank yourself next to a 787 for all I care.

 

The EMB lines in DFW are much much worse for FOs and CAs alike.
I have some contacts at a few other regionals and am making a bid comparison for the month of May.

I can tell you, the guy that said it goes on everywhere else is full of it. Just from eyeballing it, we have the worst quality of life lines out there. These are the facts. The flow might happen, but these are the facts of life.