Originally Posted by Varsity

At an AA WO you don't need to justify anything to an HR person.

Envoy has flowed over 2,000 pilots to AA and still hasn't had one withheld or turned away. Including several who have bent metal.

Originally Posted by Cessna182TypeR

I don’t get you man. From reading all your posts I thought you were a new hire on the E-175? What makes you an expert in the inner workings of HR and LCC/Major airline hiring practices?

As it stands there’s only two other viable bases if EWR shrinks or closes. IAH and ORD. TYS has a handful of lines and ORD is senior. For myself there’s no way I’ll be commuting to reserve in ORD or two legging it 1,000 miles to get to work. That’s absolutely silly.

I think myself and others would be fine with an IAD base or at least something within a shorter distance. Nobody could have predicted a base that was open for 20 yrs to be shrinking or going away altogether.

This is a completely different hiring environment from 20 or 30 years ago. HR understands if someone doesn’t want to uproot their whole family to move from the Northeast to the South for a regional airline gig.. Now if someone jumps from airline to airline you got something.

Originally Posted by DoSomePilotStuf

I hired a consultant for the Aviate interview. They had a laundry list if things to 100% avoid discussing. This was a big one. Did you hire a consultant or just “wing it?” I’d love to see some stats on this.

Originally Posted by domino

Right. Good on you for sticking it to them. Ha ha ha.

Millennials ......

Originally Posted by airlinepilot50

He’s right—Aviate (CPP) is a joke. All new FOs should seriously look at AA WO regionals which guarantees you a slot at AA. Any pilot that says a lateral move is a bad idea is a big liar. They are not even pilots, but likely management personnel trying to scare you into staying at an airline that has no future. Are you willing to sacrifice millions of dollars in exchange for a small chance of going to United? United is using you as a sucker pilot and American treats you like a professional pilot. That’s the truth.

Originally Posted by XJTFO

I would say if you do succeed with the Aviate interview. You have a very high chance of flying for United and MUCH faster than flow. Even if it takes 4 years instead of 2 years still less then half the time of a flow.

Originally Posted by itsmytime

I completely understand why someone would leave for a w/o. The OP was talking about leaving fir Republic, which has no guaranteed career progression either. That doesn’t make any sense.

Originally Posted by Av8tor8710

The initial interview with UA w/ the Aviate program gives you about the same chances of flying for them as someone off the street. An “offer” after initial interview secures nothing because you can still get turned down for unknown reasons during the final review/second interview phase as is happening to a lot of folks. Just read all the UA regional forums.

Originally Posted by Cessna182TypeR

I don’t get you man. From reading all your posts I thought you were a new hire on the E-175? What makes you an expert in the inner workings of HR and LCC/Major airline hiring practices?

As it stands there’s only two other viable bases if EWR shrinks or closes. IAH and ORD. TYS has a handful of lines and ORD is senior. For myself there’s no way I’ll be commuting to reserve in ORD or two legging it 1,000 miles to get to work. That’s absolutely silly.

I think myself and others would be fine with an IAD base or at least something within a shorter distance. Nobody could have predicted a base that was open for 20 yrs to be shrinking or going away altogether.

This is a completely different hiring environment from 20 or 30 years ago. HR understands if someone doesn’t want to uproot their whole family to move from the Northeast to the South for a regional airline gig.. Now if someone jumps from airline to airline you got something.