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Old 10-11-2017 | 06:12 PM
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The walls are imploding it's time to get out.
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Old 10-18-2017 | 05:31 AM
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So about 30 crj a going to be left, = 300 pilots ? I don't thank the place will last. The GO looks like a ghost town .
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Old 10-18-2017 | 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Superx
So about 30 crj a going to be left, = 300 pilots ? I don't thank the place will last. The GO looks like a ghost town .
What is GO?

Isn't the new CPA on the ERJ side going to make it work out? ERJ needs the pilots and now the staffing is available? But how realistic is that? The conference call this summer made it seem like a smooth transition plan, a bad deal, but an acceptable outcome?

November's block hours are the lowest in 13 years... doesn't seem to be the need for staffing now at all. Certainly not much open time. And there is hint we cant take more flying until CRJ pilots transition over. It is the "chicken or egg first" thing all over again, except with training our own pilots instead of bringing in new hires.

Is endeavor's new TA a complete game changer to the above plan for our success?

The silence is deafening. Not much from management or union, no real plan or even communication. Even the forums are quiet... a post every couple days here and pages of posts every day for everyone else. Things are bad, but just how bad are they really? Not sure I've been here long enough to have proper perspective.
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Old 10-18-2017 | 08:18 AM
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What is GO?

Isn't the new CPA on the ERJ side going to make it work out? ERJ needs the pilots and now the staffing is available? But how realistic is that? The conference call this summer made it seem like a smooth transition plan, a bad deal, but an acceptable outcome?

November's block hours are the lowest in 13 years... doesn't seem to be the need for staffing now at all. Certainly not much open time. And there is hint we cant take more flying until CRJ pilots transition over. It is the "chicken or egg first" thing all over again, except with training our own pilots instead of bringing in new hires.

Is endeavor's new TA a complete game changer to the above plan for our success?

The silence is deafening. Not much from management or union, no real plan or even communication. Even the forums are quiet... a post every couple days here and pages of posts every day for everyone else. Things are bad, but just how bad are they really? Not sure I've been here long enough to have proper perspective.
The GO IS General office
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Old 10-18-2017 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by CaseTractor
...Is endeavor's new TA a complete game changer to the above plan for our success?

The silence is deafening. Not much from management or union, no real plan or even communication. Even the forums are quiet... a post every couple days here and pages of posts every day for everyone else. Things are bad, but just how bad are they really? Not sure I've been here long enough to have proper perspective.
It’s quiet because nobody knows anything. UA is in crisis trying to figure out how to keep any of its regional flying staffed and staff their own flying. SKW is taking prime flying while we get the scraps every month. If UA had let them, XJT would have been long gone. So, nobody has an idea what to expect over the next 6 months. It could be flow to UA or another CX CPA. I wouldn’t by property near any XJT bases if you know what I mean.
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Old 10-19-2017 | 03:48 AM
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I wouldn’t by property near any XJT bases if you know what I mean.[/QUOTE]

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Old 10-19-2017 | 04:54 AM
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Yeah, DFW will be closed as soon as Inc can staff it.
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Old 10-19-2017 | 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by CaseTractor
What is GO?

Isn't the new CPA on the ERJ side going to make it work out? ERJ needs the pilots and now the staffing is available? But how realistic is that? The conference call this summer made it seem like a smooth transition plan, a bad deal, but an acceptable outcome?

November's block hours are the lowest in 13 years... doesn't seem to be the need for staffing now at all. Certainly not much open time. And there is hint we cant take more flying until CRJ pilots transition over. It is the "chicken or egg first" thing all over again, except with training our own pilots instead of bringing in new hires.

Is endeavor's new TA a complete game changer to the above plan for our success?

The silence is deafening. Not much from management or union, no real plan or even communication. Even the forums are quiet... a post every couple days here and pages of posts every day for everyone else. Things are bad, but just how bad are they really? Not sure I've been here long enough to have proper perspective.
The silence is deafening because there is nothing there. Remember, we have two levels of management when trying to win contracts- our management and Inc. I know our union reps on the CRJ side are working hard with management to get more flying, but only so much they can do. Unlike other airlines we never seem to bid on flying until we can staff it. Well, since we don't offer fast upgrades (or much else for that matter), no one comes here so we can't staff it. So we don't bid on it.
My understanding is that we are trying to get more flying from UAL. The problem is that they are scoped out so anything we win comes from someone else. Same story we've heard for a while that others are messing up and we will get their flying. Yeah, right.
The AAL flying out of DFW is temporary until Inc can staff it. Those -700s are pretty old. Then we will be left with single class ERJ flying.
Really, I see three possible outcomes.
1. Merged with Inc. Not happening. They hate unions. Ironic as Chip Childs went before Congress and testified that he could not find enough pilots to staff his airline.
2. We're purchased by UAL. Yeah, this one's been floating around for years. A flight attendant has a roommate whose boyfriend's sister's college roommate is dating a guy whose mom's third husband has a brother who is a mechanic for UAL who says this is a done deal.
3. We are would down.
Take your pick. Two out of three suck.
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Old 10-19-2017 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Blackhawk
The silence is deafening because there is nothing there. Remember, we have two levels of management when trying to win contracts- our management and Inc. I know our union reps on the CRJ side are working hard with management to get more flying, but only so much they can do. Unlike other airlines we never seem to bid on flying until we can staff it. Well, since we don't offer fast upgrades (or much else for that matter), no one comes here so we can't staff it. So we don't bid on it.
My understanding is that we are trying to get more flying from UAL. The problem is that they are scoped out so anything we win comes from someone else. Same story we've heard for a while that others are messing up and we will get their flying. Yeah, right.
The AAL flying out of DFW is temporary until Inc can staff it. Those -700s are pretty old. Then we will be left with single class ERJ flying.
Really, I see three possible outcomes.
1. Merged with Inc. Not happening. They hate unions. Ironic as Chip Childs went before Congress and testified that he could not find enough pilots to staff his airline.
2. We're purchased by UAL. Yeah, this one's been floating around for years. A flight attendant has a roommate whose boyfriend's sister's college roommate is dating a guy whose mom's third husband has a brother who is a mechanic for UAL who says this is a done deal.
3. We are would down.
Take your pick. Two out of three suck.
Don't forget about the Miami and Charlotte base. From the gate agents cousin
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Old 10-19-2017 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Blackhawk
The silence is deafening because there is nothing there. Remember, we have two levels of management when trying to win contracts- our management and Inc. I know our union reps on the CRJ side are working hard with management to get more flying, but only so much they can do. Unlike other airlines we never seem to bid on flying until we can staff it. Well, since we don't offer fast upgrades (or much else for that matter), no one comes here so we can't staff it. So we don't bid on it.
My understanding is that we are trying to get more flying from UAL. The problem is that they are scoped out so anything we win comes from someone else. Same story we've heard for a while that others are messing up and we will get their flying. Yeah, right.
The AAL flying out of DFW is temporary until Inc can staff it. Those -700s are pretty old. Then we will be left with single class ERJ flying.
Really, I see three possible outcomes.
1. Merged with Inc. Not happening. They hate unions. Ironic as Chip Childs went before Congress and testified that he could not find enough pilots to staff his airline.
2. We're purchased by UAL. Yeah, this one's been floating around for years. A flight attendant has a roommate whose boyfriend's sister's college roommate is dating a guy whose mom's third husband has a brother who is a mechanic for UAL who says this is a done deal.
3. We are would down.
Take your pick. Two out of three suck.
#3 should obviously be "wound down" not "would down".
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