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Old 11-25-2016 | 09:53 AM
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Cool, thanks up...
...and sulkair!

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Old 11-25-2016 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by PowerMan
Cool, thanks up...
...and sulkair!
Forgot to mention in my old post...

You can also bid Long and Medium call reserve which is 12 and 10 hour call outs respectively. They are called to fly first before short calls if windows match, so they tend to keep them pretty busy, but some people seem to prefer it.

I have a friend hired in August, finished OE in November, has a relief line for December. KDEN
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Old 11-25-2016 | 10:16 AM
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Sounds decent...for a West Slope guy that's a huge QOL perk.
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Old 11-25-2016 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Trowserchilli
That's a silly statement. Denver would be 15+.
Most junior DEN CA in latest award was a 1/29/07 hire, just under 10 years. Also if we open another west coast base in the next couple of years, DEN upgrade time will go down DRAMATICALLY.

I think a PHL or LGA pilot domicile would lead to us hiring street captains!

I highly doubt this! Some people will always take an upgrade, and we have A TON of east coast commuters that have come on in the last few years, with ZERO desire to live in DEN or the west coast. I think people would bid it.

But AW pays more...
Not Excusing our pay rates, but No they don't, not EVEN close! First year AWAC pay is $28, no signing bonus, and currently 5 year upgrade

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Old 11-25-2016 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by sab1250
Most junior DEN CA in latest award was a 1/29/07 hire, just under 10 years. Also if we open another west coast base in the next couple of years, DEN upgrade time will go down DRAMATICALLY.
Plus, something else to consider, hiring virtually stopped after 2007. There are ~15 pilots that represent the entire 5 year span of (2008,2009,2010,2011,2012). And even in 2013 hiring didn't start until late in the year. So there will come a day when Denver upgrade is sitting at X years, and in about a 2 month period - BAM it will go from X to X-5 years.
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Old 11-25-2016 | 12:50 PM
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^^^^^^^^+1
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Old 11-25-2016 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by sulkair
Plus, something else to consider, hiring virtually stopped after 2007. There are ~15 pilots that represent the entire 5 year span of (2008,2009,2010,2011,2012). And even in 2013 hiring didn't start until late in the year. So there will come a day when Denver upgrade is sitting at X years, and in about a 2 month period - BAM it will go from X to X-5 years.
Indeed. And, AIUI, all of those 2013 hires have had their chance to upgrade, if willing to be junior in MCO--I think the "line" will snap up as you say, but I think it will likely snap further than many expect because of this factor.

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Old 11-25-2016 | 02:52 PM
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[QUOTE=sab1250;2249804]Most junior DEN CA in latest award was a 1/29/07 hire, just under 10 years. Also if we open another west coast base in the next couple of years, DEN upgrade time will go down DRAMATICALLY.

I was joking.
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Old 11-25-2016 | 04:22 PM
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May bad then trowser. I just think and of course it's opinion that we will see 5 year or less upgrades in DEN in the next few years. I'm a terrible judge of when people are being serious on here...or in texts. My bad. I think people tend to get a little hyperbolic on here, and I try to paint a real picture for outsiders looking in.
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Old 11-25-2016 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by sab1250
May bad then trowser. I just think and of course it's opinion that we will see 5 year or less upgrades in DEN in the next few years. I'm a terrible judge of when people are being serious on here...or in texts. My bad. I think people tend to get a little hyperbolic on here, and I try to paint a real picture for outsiders looking in.
I think your right.
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