GoJet Recruiter Thread
03-17-2018, 07:30 AM
#61
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Originally Posted by veewan
Why wait until 24 months when someone could just apply off the street? NK is also hungry for pilots.
Spirit minimums: 2,000 Total Time in Fixed Wing Aircraft 1,000 Multi-engine Aircraft
If you need R-ATP for GoJet, you're already a majority of the way to Spirit mins.
Spirit minimums: 2,000 Total Time in Fixed Wing Aircraft 1,000 Multi-engine Aircraft
If you need R-ATP for GoJet, you're already a majority of the way to Spirit mins.
There is only evidence of 1 actual flow to Spirit. The pilots don’t receive any information of who is flowing or when. The Spirit flow is just a recruiting tool (lie) that doesn’t actually work. No one is getting to flow.
Although G7 pilots who had interviews scheduled with Spirit have had those interviews cancelled because of the flow.
If you think you might want to work for Spirit the you need to avoid GoJet. The flow is a lie, but you won’t be hired outside of it.
03-17-2018, 04:27 PM
#62
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Originally Posted by SEPfield
The Spirit flow is just a recruiting tool (lie) that doesn’t actually work. No one is getting to flow.
Although G7 pilots who had interviews scheduled with Spirit have had those interviews cancelled because of the flow.
Although G7 pilots who had interviews scheduled with Spirit have had those interviews cancelled because of the flow.
Seniority is everything. Just like the GoJet recruiter said with one of the opening posts - the goal is to be at a regional for a short time, then at your career airline as long as possible.
03-18-2018, 06:42 AM
#63
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This is an incomplete list of pilots that have taken advantage of the pathway program. I am not provided with information on pilots pending or deferring. I also am unable to determine the first couple pilots that made the move because we didn't differentiate between spirit hires and spirit pathway in the beginning of the program.
Employee numbers range from 708XX to 753XX
3 ORD CA'S
2 DEN CA'S
2 STL FO'S
1 DTW CA
I am told the number is actually 11 that have made the move if that reflects directly to the list we are provided with you can tack on these positions.
DEN CA
2 DTW CA'S
All three fall into the seniority range listed above.
I'm working to improve the internal reporting of this program. Please have patience.
Employee numbers range from 708XX to 753XX
3 ORD CA'S
2 DEN CA'S
2 STL FO'S
1 DTW CA
I am told the number is actually 11 that have made the move if that reflects directly to the list we are provided with you can tack on these positions.
DEN CA
2 DTW CA'S
All three fall into the seniority range listed above.
I'm working to improve the internal reporting of this program. Please have patience.
Originally Posted by SEPfield
Exactly.
There is only evidence of 1 actual flow to Spirit. The pilots don’t receive any information of who is flowing or when. The Spirit flow is just a recruiting tool (lie) that doesn’t actually work. No one is getting to flow.
Although G7 pilots who had interviews scheduled with Spirit have had those interviews cancelled because of the flow.
If you think you might want to work for Spirit the you need to avoid GoJet. The flow is a lie, but you won’t be hired outside of it.
There is only evidence of 1 actual flow to Spirit. The pilots don’t receive any information of who is flowing or when. The Spirit flow is just a recruiting tool (lie) that doesn’t actually work. No one is getting to flow.
Although G7 pilots who had interviews scheduled with Spirit have had those interviews cancelled because of the flow.
If you think you might want to work for Spirit the you need to avoid GoJet. The flow is a lie, but you won’t be hired outside of it.
03-18-2018, 10:06 AM
#64
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Originally Posted by GoJet Recruiter
This is an incomplete list of pilots that have taken advantage of the pathway program. I am not provided with information on pilots pending or deferring. I also am unable to determine the first couple pilots that made the move because we didn't differentiate between spirit hires and spirit pathway in the beginning of the program.
Employee numbers range from 708XX to 753XX
3 ORD CA'S
2 DEN CA'S
2 STL FO'S
1 DTW CA
I am told the number is actually 11 that have made the move if that reflects directly to the list we are provided with you can tack on these positions.
DEN CA
2 DTW CA'S
All three fall into the seniority range listed above.
I'm working to improve the internal reporting of this program. Please have patience.
Employee numbers range from 708XX to 753XX
3 ORD CA'S
2 DEN CA'S
2 STL FO'S
1 DTW CA
I am told the number is actually 11 that have made the move if that reflects directly to the list we are provided with you can tack on these positions.
DEN CA
2 DTW CA'S
All three fall into the seniority range listed above.
I'm working to improve the internal reporting of this program. Please have patience.
3 magenta
2 red
4 cyan
Until the company publishes an actual and factual list of flows then the information you posted is about as useful as the information I posted.
When/IF that happens I’ll be happy to retract my statements.
In the meantime. Even IF your numbers are real. That’s 3 flows per month. If only 50% of the pilots on property desire to flow (approximately 250) that’s still a 7 year flow to Spirit Airlines (not even a legacy) with no possibility of being hired outside of the flow.
Please explain to our potential recruits why they should pass up the opportunity to make more money at Endeavor , upgrade in the same amount of time (at an airline with an actual upgrade training program, and not be forced to fly in the right seat after upgrade) and still have the opportunity to be hired at Spirit years before the mythical flow.
03-18-2018, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by GoJet Recruiter
I'm working to improve the internal reporting of this program. Please have patience.
When the tempo is quick, you either keep up or skip a beat.
03-19-2018, 11:44 AM
#66
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Position: F-152, F-172
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Originally Posted by SEPfield
Please explain to our potential recruits why they should pass up the opportunity to make more money at Endeavor , upgrade in the same amount of time (at an airline with an actual upgrade training program, and not be forced to fly in the right seat after upgrade) and still have the opportunity to be hired at Spirit years before the mythical flow.
03-19-2018, 03:07 PM
#67
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Originally Posted by MolineCFI
Isn't Endeavor merely an interview with not actual commitment to hire anyone?
Please explain to our potential recruits why they should pass up the opportunity to make more money at *almost any other regional* , upgrade in the same amount of time (at an airline with an actual upgrade training program, and not be forced to fly in the right seat after upgrade) and still have the opportunity to be hired at Spirit years before the mythical flow, *while waiting for a possible flow or interview at a legacy airline*
03-19-2018, 03:49 PM
#68
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Originally Posted by GoJet Recruiter
The basics of it are as follows.
60 days prior to the completion of 24 months or 12 months as captain (24 months on property is still required, I am a direct entry captain with a little over one year of seniority but I am not eligible for Spirit until I have been here 24 months) you take the spirit talent assessment test. When you successfully pass the test you pick a class date with spirit no earlier than your 24 month anniversary.
Pilots who were on property when the agreement was signed will have to additionally interview at Spirit because we changed our interview process when we signed with Spirit.
60 days prior to the completion of 24 months or 12 months as captain (24 months on property is still required, I am a direct entry captain with a little over one year of seniority but I am not eligible for Spirit until I have been here 24 months) you take the spirit talent assessment test. When you successfully pass the test you pick a class date with spirit no earlier than your 24 month anniversary.
Pilots who were on property when the agreement was signed will have to additionally interview at Spirit because we changed our interview process when we signed with Spirit.
03-19-2018, 04:25 PM
#69
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Geez....A bit salty, aren't we? Like Jason said, a regional is really just a stepping stone to get your time and hopefully move on to a major carrier. With the amount of new hires annually, versus how many pilots they keep on property, it seems like G7 is a good place to get your time and move on. Is it all sunshine and rainbows at G7? No, but the same can be said for ALL the other regionals.
03-19-2018, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 67GCBC
Geez....A bit salty, aren't we? Like Jason said, a regional is really just a stepping stone to get your time and hopefully move on to a major carrier. With the amount of new hires annually, versus how many pilots they keep on property, it seems like G7 is a good place to get your time and move on. Is it all sunshine and rainbows at G7? No, but the same can be said for ALL the other regionals.
All regionals have their problems, but Mesa, GoJet and TSA seem to have more problems than others.
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